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[PrometheusTNO]

I know Tina said teams have until December to finish their 20 qualifying matches.I think I'm just confused by the two potentially different paths the Comp Play teams will take.

The Top 12 is set. Their final finishing order is determined by the semi-final matches and the finals at MechCon. Seems pretty clear.

I assume all >13th place teams keep playing and changing rank until December. But exactly when do they take a snapshot of the Comp Play Leaderboards and say "this is the final ranking."

If a team gathers enough Elo to break into the top 12, I know they can't suddenly participate in the semi-finals, but what do they get? Is the top 12 just locked now, and 13th is the highest you can go?

[Tolson]

Do teams still need to battle it out until Dec. to finish top 22?

[justcallme A S H]

Tolson, on 16 September 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

Do teams still need to battle it out until Dec. to finish top 22?

Correct. Teams have to keep thrashing about in the dead queues for months if they want to improve standings.

[kesmai]

Which sportsleague on this planet continues leagueplay for ranks AFTER the playoffs started?

Edited by kesmai, 18 September 2017 - 07:08 AM.

[zudukai]

ref; mechcon tournament schedule



"CLOSED SEASON"
"CLOSED"

*checks compQ again* *facepalms*

Edited by zudukai, 18 September 2017 - 05:12 PM.

[Tolson]

Bill Nye, have an upvote!

[BrotherBarold]

It seems like the rankings should be finalized now, but we really need PGI to clarify this.

[justcallme A S H]

Tina said 3 weeks ago that the ladder for anyone 13 and below was open for contesting until December. So no need to clarify something that's been clarified already I reckon

Given so many teams have not made the 20 (as it was such a last min decision)... It doesn't surprise me its still open. Hell my team hasn't even played a match cause we can't get 8 of the 9 online... We would've had 12 if we had more than a couple days notice to fill a team

Edited by justcallme A S H, 18 September 2017 - 06:57 PM.

[zudukai]

so, because teams are cowardly and timid, PGI is going to alter the rules after the world cup started for those who failed to participate within the indicated window? clearly in the image i linked the intention was to close the compQ as the game shifted to the tournament client.

to interpret the image in any other way makes no sense and would be absurd.

[justcallme A S H]

Changing the rules after? Whatever do you mean good sir?

After the whole thing started we've had:

1. Alterations (well, multiple clarifications) to key dates.
2. Prizes / rewards not advised until MWOOC was well underway.
3. Signup extensions (IIRC there was, can't remember for sure).
4. Min game requirements for prizes changed.
5. Prizes eligibility out to Dec.


Changing things after the fact is the way of the MWOOC 2017 - get on-board with it brah, don't be a hater. Embrace it!

[zudukai]

justcallme A S H, on 19 September 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

Changing the rules after? Whatever do you mean good sir?

After the whole thing started we've had:

1. Alterations (well, multiple clarifications) to key dates.
2. Prizes / rewards not advised until MWOOC was well underway.
3. Signup extensions (IIRC there was, can't remember for sure).
4. Min game requirements for prizes changed.
5. Prizes eligibility out to Dec.


Changing things after the fact is the way of the MWOOC 2017 - get on-board with it brah, don't be a hater. Embrace it!

i'm not going to embrace the mind numbing decisions here, PGI already gets away with enough bad calls. the fact is PGI already defined the issue, and suddenly the people who couldn't be arsed to make their time count (and F*** those who did) suddenly get an unwarranted free pass for extra time

Edited by zudukai, 19 September 2017 - 11:13 PM.

[justcallme A S H]

Where did I say people asked for extra time? I didn't. I expected it to closed last week.

No one did ask actually, to extend it or get a free pass/time. People simply sought clarification and that was the official PGI response, that for 13 down it's till Dec. This is nothing to do with any player. This is just PGIs standard disorganised behaviour when it comes to the MWOOC. Same stuff went down last year as well.

That said clarification was sought WELL before it closed (for top 12) however it hasn't really been communicated properly, no surprise.

So get all annoyed all you want but don't direct it at players.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 20 September 2017 - 04:42 AM.

[zudukai]

so PGI still ignores this thread, i demand answers!

[vidjahgames]

It will be fine, Zudukai. PGI always takes care of us.

I'm assuming they are going to give out rewards based on the highest position a team has reached. It makes no sense for them to annoy their dedicated players by forcing them to watch a ranking system for 3-4 months.

It costs them nothing to provide the pixel rewards and it doesn't deter our spending habits either. I'm confident PGI will do the right thing when all is said and done.

[kesmai]

ATM i care a fugg about PGI, their tournament, their rewards and that leaderboard.

they just do not know what they are doing, hasn´t changed for 5 years.

[Tolson]

Bump. The rules clearly stated it was supposed to be locked at seeding phase end.

At season end we stopped play, and now have gone from 18th to 20th as new teams continue to farm easy wins (now that all the good teams have left the queue).

This is completely unfair to teams that participated during the heat of the tournament. These new teams don't even have to fight the top12 like we all did. They can basically farm prizes now, and roster hop as they desire.

Edited by Tolson, 23 October 2017 - 07:20 AM.

[kesmai]

*rant*
we will not get a proper answer tolson.
nor a clarification of any sort .
https://mechwarrior....ament/standings

according to announcements 3 teams go to vancouver.
yet only 2 will play, as a matter of fact the participants in match 22 and 23 are the same teams.

PGI DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING

They either had to announce the 2 best teams for the finals or the 4 best teams.
doing the last 16 without any loser bracket.
easy peasy.
maybe don´t use some crazy challonge thingy next time.
*rant off*

or explain my error of thought to bring me enlightnenment

i got the enlightenment.
i now understand the schedule.
well, still does not make much sense to me that the 3 qualified teams play against each other before the finals. except maybe for twitch.tv.
https://mechwarrior....nament/schedule
ah whatever.
ite don´t care.

Edited by kesmai, 23 October 2017 - 01:42 PM.

[zudukai]

relating to post: https://mwomercs.com...68#entry5851668

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For teams ranked 13 and below, they have until December to complete the minimum of 20 Matches. That's 5 matches per month (for 4 months) for every team to receive the participation goods.

is the only clarification we received, none of it relates to position or standings which should not change after the ladder has been closed, which is at it's root is the problem i have.

i'm fine with people qualifying for rewards after the top teams have been decided however i am not okay with having to defend our rewards after everything else has been finalized and the queue should have been officially closed according to PGI's own commitment and wording.

to those who missed the opportunity when the queue was open only have themselves to blame for not finding time to play the minimum 20 matches, it should have no baring on us or our final standing after sep 15th.

asinine absurdity this is.

[Asym]

The only answer you all wikk get at this rate is that it is a tie...........