Edited by GuardDogg, 21 September 2017 - 12:40 PM.
Shoot The Leg, Shoot The Leg!
#1
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:31 PM
#2
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:34 PM
#3
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:44 PM
A. Legs are much harder to protect than torsos (can twist to hide torso, hard to hide leg).
B. Depending on the size of the mech, people might strip off leg armor (less damage needed).
C. Depending on mech and build, there might be ammo in there (potentially faster/easier kill).
D. Depending on speed/size, legs can be just easier to hit than the body.
The main downside of legging though is that not everyone does it, so you might end up with some people shooting legs and some shooting torso. Broadly speaking it's better if everybody is shooting the same area, and since the torso is the most intuitive/obvious target that causes most people to gravitate towards it.
If you CAN get everybody on the same page then legging is absolutely brutal against any mech. The issue is just getting everybody on the same page...
Edited by FupDup, 21 September 2017 - 12:44 PM.
#4
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:46 PM
We don't need a PSA telling people not to leg - We need a PSA telling people to leg more often (When its appropriate).
Edited by Bombast, 21 September 2017 - 12:46 PM.
#5
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:47 PM
I agree with the OP that shooting legs is not always the best choice. Check enemy paper doll sometimes folks espcially when the enemy mech has less than 80%.
Edited by Antares102, 21 September 2017 - 12:48 PM.
#6
Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:49 PM
It makes more sense if everyone is on the same page of what to shoot for or if it's a 1v1 situation.
#7
Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:22 PM
#8
Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:23 PM
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:
Shooting the torso is usually better than the arms since the ST loss will immediately destroy the arm with it. The exception is if you're dealing with a mech that has most of its firepower loaded into the arms.
#9
Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:32 PM
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:
In Mechwarrior 3 (A game I love), legging was the ONLY tactic.
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:
Generally, the arms are the last thing you want to shoot, the only exceptions (That I can think of at the moment) being when the arm is the only thing you can see (A Catapult flagging its racks around over a ridge) or when they have giant weapons and the arms around torn up.
Side torsos are good targets, but still fall far behind the CT, unless their already stripped, you can't get a clean shot on the CT, or you know for certain its an IS XL.
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:
That's kind of the attractive bit about shooting legs - People put ammo there, and since no one shoots there, they often trim the armor from their pants. Still doesn't make it something you should auto-shoot, but its something to keep in mind.
#10
Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:43 PM
#11
Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:17 PM
Shooting legs is a good tactic. Skill Tree mobility can be tricky when trying to balance firepower and survival. I don't have enough invested in mobility. Plus I don't run full armor in my legs. I take the chance hoping people are not in the habit of shooting legs. It's tough going when I do lose a leg.
#12
Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:23 PM
Good hunting,
CFC Conky
#13
Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:43 PM
End of story. If you really wanna test it OP find a friend and do it in the lobby or something. YOu shoot up top and let them shoot down bottom and see who come out on top first most the time.
I bet you will be sadly mistaken though as legging is much more effective and considerably faster especially on lighter faster mechs.
Bombast, on 21 September 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:
That's kind of the attractive bit about shooting legs - People put ammo there, and since no one shoots there, they often trim the armor from their pants. Still doesn't make it something you should auto-shoot, but its something to keep in mind.
Was said above, doesnt matter WHAT you are shooting as long as the whole team is doing it then mechs get melted. I dont know many top teams that dont use this tactic in most if not all matches aside from casual face shooting.
and on light and fast mediums it should 100% be what you shoot first, only if they have IS XL, asymmetrical builds, etc would i say to shoot anything else first.
A legged mech is soon to be a dead mech.
Edited by Revis Volek, 21 September 2017 - 02:44 PM.
#14
Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:05 PM
#15
Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:25 PM
Don't believe me? Try it on a Spider, Commando, Mist Lynx or Arctic Cheetah. Even when they're standing completely still, they only take partial damage if they have both legs. It's been that way forever.
#16
Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:35 PM
Willard Phule, on 21 September 2017 - 03:25 PM, said:
With your esteemed Clan loyalist aim I wouldn't think those hitboxes would be a problem.
#18
Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:57 PM
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:
You absolultey DO want to leg certain mechs. Primarily light mechs,Crabs and specific loadouts of heavy mechs that are likely to have thinned out leg armor.
And here is why.
Most light mechs should be legged because their defense isn't based upon armor it's speed and profile. Remove the mobility and they are easy kills. Some mechs like the Raven have extremely vulnerable legs. Also light mech leg armor is not of such a high value that it takes a considerable amont of time to breach.
Certain other chassis have exceptional torso hitboxes that allow for exceptional damage dispersal. A Crab is a good example of a mech of this type. While a pilot can twist their torsos all over the place the legs must remain alligned with their heading and as such can be predicted and hit reliably.
And then there are mechs that due to loadout must have stripped something to attain the loadout. frequently it's leg armor.This however does require exceptional observational skills as well as intimate knowledge of the mechlab and mech loadouts so I will count this as an advanced strategey not available for general practice and occationally a bit of a gamble (the pilot may have stripped all the armor a by a little instead of most of the legs)
And finally. Defensive torso twisting is a common technique and an effective one.The legs however require a change in heading to shield a weakened leg. So, occationally if a target already has a seriously damaged leg it may be easier to take the leg out than deal with destroying the main body if the pilot can "dance". Removing the leg severely hampers the pilots mobility and ability to bring their weapons to bear on you. You may for example want to take out the leg and disengage to finish the mech off latter or leave it to team mates to finish (a technique I use while piloting light mechs or faster mediums)
#19
Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:00 PM
A) 2xAC20
2xHPPC
C) 2xHeavy Gauss
D) 4x or 6xSRM6
F) 3xLPL
G) 2xHeLL
Edited by D VA, 21 September 2017 - 04:01 PM.
#20
Posted 21 September 2017 - 06:18 PM
GuardDogg, on 21 September 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:
Legging is one of the most viable tactic during this challenge as almost everyone is running ballistic mechs with ammo in the legs. Got several kills by simply blowing off one leg.
There is a reason why in 1v1 tournaments players go for the leg. It is the fastest way to kill a mech, unless your opponent doesn't know how to twist.
Edited by El Bandito, 21 September 2017 - 06:20 PM.
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