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[Feezou]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d8919005024beaf

It's kinda a joke, but I think it might work.

[Athom83]

You should not be running an XL on a Dragon. LFE works though. Also, those extra 2 energy point really is helpful. However, you really don't want that MRM as you kind of need more missile launchers to make it work (and you have far more ammo for it than you would need). Cleaned it up and optimized it for you a bit; http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3379efa43639b31 or http://mwo.smurfy-ne...652b70879a6660d DHS is a must, and if you run out of tonnageand have the spare critslots, LFF/FF is actualy useful (when you already have Endo).

[Spheroid]

1 MRM10 does nothing. Just run a RAC and 3-4x mlas. Additionally the ammo should all be in the arm. Upgrade to double heatsinks and switch the LAMS to AMS.

If you still want to use the missile slot perhaps a RL15.

Edited by Spheroid, 16 November 2017 - 09:15 AM.

[Feezou]

Athom83, on 16 November 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

You should not be running an XL on a Dragon. LFE works though. Also, those extra 2 energy point really is helpful. However, you really don't want that MRM as you kind of need more missile launchers to make it work (and you have far more ammo for it than you would need). Cleaned it up and optimized it for you a bit; http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3379efa43639b31 or http://mwo.smurfy-ne...652b70879a6660d DHS is a must, and if you run out of tonnageand have the spare critslots, LFF/FF is actualy useful (when you already have Endo).

Good idea. I might get rid of the rocket launcher on the build, for extra ammo.

[Athom83]

Spheroid, on 16 November 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

If you still want to use the missile slot perhaps a RL15.

I'd use an RL10 because tubes over the mech maximum does split into multiple salvos, which is quite annoying.

[Koniving]

Feezou, on 16 November 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d8919005024beaf

It's kinda a joke, but I think it might work.

XL engine works fine, contrary to popular wisdom. (Some people still don't know how many times the hitboxes have changed on Dragons; so long as you're facing them down, your STs are reasonably difficult to hit. It's if you try twisting to protect yourself that you actually Screw yourself).

Reduce rear armor significantly. Funnel it forward; 30 something front armor is barely enough for a light.... imagine a heavy with all that bulk.... Your average unquirked medium is carrying 40 to almost 60 points of armor on the front torsos... 36 is just unacceptable.

If you're only bringing 2 medium lasers... choose either the arm or the side torso. ST is fine if you're someone whom uses armlock anyway. Arm is better if you don't use armlock, because this means your RAC and MLs can be focused on the same target regardless of where they hide. I normally prefer streaks, that way 100% of your firepower can be run against whatever you're aiming at.

[Horseman]

Feezou, on 16 November 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d8919005024beaf

It's kinda a joke, but I think it might work.

It's kinda taking the piss. Dragons are quirked for weapons cooldown - which RACs do not benefit from - and you've stuck both a RAC-5 and a LAMS on a build with standard heat sinks.You'd spend more time shut down than fighting.

Try this on for size: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...416b03e1b46a5f6
LFE version: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e7bf45a2814f6ad

Actually, with the Civil War UACs perhaps I should go and rebuy a 1C now myself.

Koniving, on 16 November 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

XL engine works fine, contrary to popular wisdom.

QFT.

Edited by Horseman, 17 November 2017 - 03:15 AM.

[Koniving]

QFT? o.O;
In all seriousness though.
Old Dragons + XL engine. Typically, these are even slow dragons.

Spoiler

This one showcases their amazing climbing ability, superior to most mechs.

it also showcases stupidity.



A genuine build and tests.






This is a build that still works even today. In fact it performs a shitton better today than it did back then.

Dragon advice for new players.

The entirety still applies.

That's back when the hitboxes were crap.
These were the hitboxes back then.

This is what people think they currently are. However the hitbox has changed twice since this was made.

As for what they actually are, I think that should be kept a secret. But know that Dragons can take abuse and XL engines are still good.

LFE is better, as is standard engines if you have good CT firepower. But there's nothing wrong with an XL even if it's only an XL 300 or 270.

[Koniving]

The secret to being a Dragon, is having 12 or less points dedicated to the rear. And that's if you're a runner.
If you're slower, dedicate no more than 2 to the rear, focusing it all on the front and remember at no point should they get behind you. There's no excuse for it. The Dragon has a wide twist range, and as shown in the Trial Dragon video, a wide arm range. This mech can run away from an enemy and still unless its entire payload (if carrying Streaks or LRMs) onto a target directly behind it, while exposing ZERO of its rear torso. There is no excuse if an enemy gets a shot on your rear torso.

[Horseman]

Koniving, on 17 November 2017 - 06:13 AM, said:

QFT? o.O;

Quoted For Truth. My Dragons are running XL by default, and death by side torso loss is quite rare in my experience.

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This is a build that still works even today. In fact it performs a shitton better today than it did back then.

3xUAC2 + 2xML is currently the default build on one of my 5Ns. It both performs great and is extremely fun.

[epikt]

9 answers and nobody points the major flaw of the build: standard heat-sinks.

(Almost) no mech is viable without double heat-sinks.

[Horseman]

epikt, on 17 November 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

9 answers and nobody points the major flaw of the build: standard heat-sinks.

Only three times, mate.

Athom83, on 16 November 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

DHS is a must

Spheroid, on 16 November 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Upgrade to double heatsinks

Horseman, on 17 November 2017 - 03:12 AM, said:

you've stuck both a RAC-5 and a LAMS on a build with standard heat sinks.You'd spend more time shut down than fighting.

Edited by Horseman, 17 November 2017 - 02:10 PM.

[epikt]

Ahah. Next buy, glasses.