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[Leopardo]

Hello dear PGI - after several patches and ofc after we had the machine gun mechs like - cheetah jenner2c atc - they have like - 6-8 machine guns, and now we have the piranha with 12 machine guns - in that case the spider 5k is undergunned as hell- and have no place on the battle field . spider 5k became completely useless.
I suggest to buff the Spider 5K machine guns fire rate, and add some to energy cool down quirk, or agility quirks, or else useful weapon quirk
to put that little underpowered mech to the field to be not even close to these mechs - but a little bit better than it was.

thnx

[Variant1]

the spider 5k is not useless, each mech that uses machine guns has to sacrifice something. The more machine guns on a light the less tonnage for armor/ammo etc. The piranha is 20 tons and has 12 machine guns, its going to run dry on ammo real fast. The cheetah and jenner do better with laser/missile loadouts instead of balistics. The spider will still perform well as it did before so no worries buddy

[Leopardo]

man do u play the spider a lot? - it was fine before these mechs came in. now the same weight mechs has the biggest advantage in the machine gun fire. along with the 8 machinegun slots they have the several energy slots - that makes them more poverfull - spider had energy slot - its just a sounds bad in the reality of the game. u cant fight these mechs 1v1.....

[Yumoshiri]

when you play light mechs, you have to understand the light pilot hierarchy, whether you're a locust, piranha, jenner or wolfhound.

Rule 1: Never fight another light (unless it's an easy win)

Summary of arguments:

• Lights don't fight fair 1v1, they will summon allies, ask for missile support, back up, spam artillery, or whatnot
  
• It's more difficult to hit another light mech, so you're wasting ammo, or unnecessarily putting yourself to risk
  
• Most lights (except snipers), can also deal a punch, so in a brawl you'll either both be very damaged, and your game will end shortly
  
• While you are fighting a light, enemy assaults are shooting your team, and you basically failed your team not distracting them

Rule 2: Don't fight any light with more dangerous anti-light weapons than you own yourself, unless you are playing it dirty
Streak > SPL > MPL > MG >SNUB PPC / AC10> SL > ML > ERSL > ERML > LL > LPPC/ HPPC

Rule 3: If you can't run to escape, jump to escape

Rule 4: Play dirty, play opportunistic

Rule 5: Standing still on any light is a death sentence

Rule 6: Don't become too greedy, your primary goal is to be a nuisance to enemy assaults and distract them, not necessarily to stand still behind them - be an easy target for their team to shoot you down. Go for at most two alpha's before you disappear again.

1v1 arguments are therefore obsolete, you shouldn't be 1v1'ing lights in the first place.

That said, the 5k isn't in the best shape I agree, but saying they are redundant goes too far IMO, as they can still fulfill the same roles they always used to fill

[Dee Eight]

Ignore him...he's been whining about spiders for months now. Its not anyone else's fault he won't buy a different mech.

[Leopardo]

right - I just want to make the spider little bit better not OP and not close to these other OP light mechs

[Leopardo]

That said, the 5k isn't in the best shape I agree, but saying they are redundant goes too far IMO, as they can still fulfill the same roles they always used to fill


yeas the spiders is isn't in the best shape - so only want to put them in th place - just make them little bit better no OP.
thnx for th big and great answer !!!!!! @Yumoshiri

[Leopardo]

@Dee Eight dude - listen my post is about that spider 5k is undergunned - and not so great as other lights - and I don't want to make it OP want to make spider 5k little bit better compared to what we have now - and what it was before nerf .
just ad some 5% to the quirks add rate of fire quirk that's it - not OP

Edited by Leopardo, 01 March 2018 - 03:28 AM.