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[Jackal Noble]

JackalBeast, on 15 March 2018 - 07:20 PM, said:

The LBK-A specifically has a -15% LRM COOLDOWN. It is fast and armored so it can keep LOS all day long and its launchers are up on the top STs. It has enough tonnage to run 2 LRM15+A w/ 4.5 tons, bap, tc1 and 4 er smalls as back up.

I just took that Linebacker out and should note it's the Clan lrms that suck balls (not a big user of lrms at all). Did ok but had to use up literally most of my ammo to garner just over 400 dmg and 1 kill. Wasn't a great match for sure, but i'm fairly certain that the Clan warheads were replaced with cardboard tubes with a teddy bear strapped on the front.

Edited by JackalBeast, 15 March 2018 - 07:59 PM.

[InvictusLee]

JackalBeast, on 15 March 2018 - 07:59 PM, said:

I just took that Linebacker out and should note it's the Clan lrms that suck balls (not a big user of lrms at all). Did ok but had to use up literally most of my ammo to garner just over 400 dmg and 1 kill. Wasn't a great match for sure, but i'm fairly certain that the Clan warheads were replaced with cardboard tubes with a teddy bear strapped on the front.

6LRM5 Linebacker does some amazing work, and has enough tonnage to bring full armor and back up weapons + like 8 tons of ammo.

[Battlemaster56]

November11th, on 15 March 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

Mrm60 + LB10'S makes quick work of nearly everything.

Dont own a KGC, so I don't know any builds but I do see alot of rac5 spam from them of late.

[Jackal Noble]

November11th, on 15 March 2018 - 08:03 PM, said:

6LRM5 Linebacker does some amazing work, and has enough tonnage to bring full armor and back up weapons + like 8 tons of ammo.

I don't really touch LRM5 on either side as they are absolutely terrible. I mean for shenanigans sure I guess. If I'm gonna do that it's the acw-1 with 7 lrm 5 tho.

[Yosharian]

w4ldO, on 15 March 2018 - 12:00 AM, said:

arctic cheatah with a single ERPPC

Nothing wrong with that build, it can deal so-so damage and it's FUN AS HELL.

You should fit a single ERML with it too, though.

Kubernetes, on 15 March 2018 - 12:55 PM, said:

Timberwolf, 3x UAC2.

UAC2s are a lot better than they used to be. This build isn't that bad, although he really ought to throw a few lasers on there too

Edited by Yosharian, 15 March 2018 - 08:28 PM.

[InvictusLee]

Battlemaster56, on 15 March 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

Dont own a KGC, so I don't know any builds but I do see alot of rac5 spam from them of late.

Those who run RACs on crabs dont truly know how to run a crab. They are just too hot to really be effective unless you have 90 heat sinks.

JackalBeast, on 15 March 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

I don't really touch LRM5 on either side as they are absolutely terrible. I mean for shenanigans sure I guess. If I'm gonna do that it's the acw-1 with 7 lrm 5 tho.

I am all about the shenanigans...

[DerHuhnTeufel]

RACs aren't very hot, but despite their supposedly great DPS I've been very unimpressed with them. Hard to tell with my current internet connection, though, might be missing a lot due to packet loss or whatnot.

[El Bandito]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 15 March 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

RACs aren't very hot, but despite their supposedly great DPS I've been very unimpressed with them. Hard to tell with my current internet connection, though, might be missing a lot due to packet loss or whatnot.

The DPS is very high for the tonnage, but it is all spread damage.

[DerHuhnTeufel]

El Bandito, on 15 March 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

The DPS is very high for the tonnage, but it is all spread damage.

Yeah, I just find they jam so frequently that the dps just never appears. If I go to testing grounds I can regularly get 80 shots before they jam, I don't think I've ever had more than 30 on an actual server. I mean, I've had them jam with the "jam bar" halfway filled before on actual servers, I think they're just bugged.

[El Bandito]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 16 March 2018 - 12:02 AM, said:

Yeah, I just find they jam so frequently that the dps just never appears. If I go to testing grounds I can regularly get 80 shots before they jam, I don't think I've ever had more than 30 on an actual server. I mean, I've had them jam with the "jam bar" halfway filled before on actual servers, I think they're just bugged.

Yes, experience is very different between test server and live server.

[Curccu]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 15 March 2018 - 02:30 PM, said:

An 8x C-SSRM2 Arctic wolf. He'd basically alpha and immediately shut down from ghost heat. Why he didn't go with like 3x SSRM6, I'll never know.

Shouldn't overheat GH is just <9 heats.
Why? Most likely because smaller streaks have better DPS, higher heat also...

El Bandito, on 15 March 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

The DPS is very high for the tonnage, but it is all spread damage.

I run trolly AS7-D sometimes with 2xRAC5 & 2xMRM30, both weapons spread, heat is insane but so is that ~36+ dps want to have staring match for a few seconds? not many mechs can win that match.

[Maxx Blue]

I don't know that I've been playing completely terrible builds recently, but I did take out my Heavy PPC Cat K2 with no coolshots a couple times. That sucker is hard-mode if you actually want to put up any sort of decent damage numbers. I've been derping around with a similar build on a Huntsman as well: 2xERPPC, 4xHMG. Neither build is exactly good, but it's a nice change of pace. The Huntsman especially takes me back to the 'ole poptart days.

Oh, and I've seen Pacifist running around a bunch recently with his Commando. Of course, he is pretty much playing a different game than the rest of us, so his build is terrible with a purpose.

[jss78]

I've never actually run it, but I've been meaning to put in a STD400 + 6xERML build in my BLR-1G.

Just so I could, for once, run that glorious, 59.5-ton King of Engines.

I actually expect it to do just fine in pug queue.

[evilauthor]

jss78, on 16 March 2018 - 09:33 AM, said:

I've never actually run it, but I've been meaning to put in a STD400 + 6xERML build in my BLR-1G.

I think I did something similar once, but it was with a 400XL that I had won in an Event or from a Loot Bag (I forget which). It was pretty darn speedy for an assault mec, probably enough so that everyone on the other side could tell I was running an XL just from watching me move.

[Yosharian]

DerHuhnTeufel, on 15 March 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

RACs aren't very hot, but despite their supposedly great DPS I've been very unimpressed with them. Hard to tell with my current internet connection, though, might be missing a lot due to packet loss or whatnot.

> I've been very unimpressed with them

that's because they're utter garbage

equip literally anything else that weighs the same and be more effective

[DerHuhnTeufel]

Yeah, that's basically what I did.

[Zergling]

I'd rather use a LBX10 than a RAC5, and that is already near the bottom of the list when it comes to weapon selection.
And the RAC2 is somehow even worse than the RAC5.

Edited by Zergling, 16 March 2018 - 09:27 PM.

[InvictusLee]

Curccu, on 16 March 2018 - 02:42 AM, said:

Shouldn't overheat GH is just &lt;9 heats.
Why? Most likely because smaller streaks have better DPS, higher heat also...


I run trolly AS7-D sometimes with 2xRAC5 &amp; 2xMRM30, both weapons spread, heat is insane but so is that ~36+ dps want to have staring match for a few seconds? not many mechs can win that match.

any mech with 2 ultra 20s or 2 lbx 20s will win that staring match rather quickly if you are not disarmed first.

Edited by November11th, 16 March 2018 - 10:20 PM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

today...

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 17 March 2018 - 12:05 AM.

[Curccu]

November11th, on 16 March 2018 - 10:19 PM, said:

any mech with 2 ultra 20s or 2 lbx 20s will win that staring match rather quickly if you are not disarmed first.

Not sure what alternate math you are using but 2xLB20x = 10 DPS vs that atlais builds over 36 DPS. + Atlas-D quirk armor (169 total CT armor) vs your "any" mech... I call ********.