33 replies to this topic

[BrunoSSace]

So this little mech has hit is 7day early adopter warning on the main page. I still haven't pre order it and don't think I will. Its a 40ton ballistic and energy boat with the Hero sporting missiles. One variety has masc and they all sport 6 jumpjets and all have the same max engine.

The hard points do all seem simular. 2 ballistic or 3 or 4 energy on most of the Chassis.

I can see Ac10 and 2 or 3 medium lasers
Maybe Ac 20 and Mediums.
Max engine and medium pulse lasers
Light Guass and medium lasers
2 or 3 ER large lasers.
Lasers and machine guns.
If you don't mind slow maybe dual ac2 spam.

I don't know why people would buy this? When we can do most of these builds already. Unless you are a pokemon master and must have them all.

What are your thoughts on this weird little mech. Bruno.

[Eisenhorne]

Depending on quirks / hitboxes, I could see the hero mech being extremely good. It could do the 4x SRM4 build that the ASN-21 does, and if it has better quirks and hitboxes, it would be a very strong choice.

All other variants are varying degrees of trash. It has nowhere near enough hardpoints to actually function.

Edited by Eisenhorne, 24 May 2018 - 12:48 PM.

[kapusta11]

Looks incredibly hardpoint starved. Quirks might make 5 MPL or hero variant viable tho.

[Verilligo]

Something good about the Vulcan? It's, uh... steeped in... history? Maybe?

[LordBraxton]

It's excellent against infantry and light tanks

Lel.

Edited by LordBraxton, 24 May 2018 - 01:31 PM.

[Helsbane]

They look like they'll be great buckshot stoppers, just like everything else in my gunsights.

[Pain G0D]

Why not buy something that's already available ? Nobody should have to wait 4 months for anything they just paid money for .

[Angel of Annihilation]

It should be just about a good as the Assassin.

[stealthraccoon]

It’s kinda scary cool looking, but I assume it’s going to be tall.
I like torso ballistic slots, and it will likely be XL friendly - could be jumpy and fast with some pulse lasers and MG’s.

[cougurt]

it has a nice lanky assassin-like profile, so hopefully it will at least be moderately durable. the 5T and the hero might be good. there's a possibility that it will get some strong quirks, though i kind of doubt it going by the past several releases.

other than that...i guess it looks neat? probably not a wise purchase unless you just love the mech and are willing to play it regardless of its performance.

[Nightbird]

There's a chance it will get good quirks?

[El Bandito]

BrunoSSace, on 24 May 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

The hard points do all seem simular. 2 ballistic or 3 or 4 energy on most of the Chassis.

I can see Ac10 and 2 or 3 medium lasers
Maybe Ac 20 and Mediums.
Max engine and medium pulse lasers
Light Guass and medium lasers
2 or 3 ER large lasers.
Lasers and machine guns.
If you don't mind slow maybe dual ac2 spam.

The hero is potentially the best purchase of them all, with SRMs.

[Dee Eight]

I'm not going to waste money on it. Nor did I waste any on the hellfire.

[Thorn Hallis]

The decals are nice.

[eminus]

if you buy , it increases the life span of the servers

[Bishop Six]

Next IS garbage.

Give me! A! 65 kph! 90-95 tons! IS-Assault! With ECM & High Hardpoints! And WITHOUT APE ARMS!!

Oh...i forgot...we are not Clammers...we just get garbage, slow & squishy. Here, take my money! Not.

I mean really, what were the last good IS mechs coming out? For me Cyclops & Bushwacker...since then...nothing.

Edited by Bishop Six, 25 May 2018 - 12:08 AM.

[Myke Pantera]

It looks good and the Bloodlust will be strong, but all the other variants need help

[El Bandito]

Bishop Six, on 25 May 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

Give me! A! 65 kph! 90-95 tons! IS-Assault! With ECM & High Hardpoints! And WITHOUT APE ARMS!!

Oh...i forgot...we are not Clammers...we just get garbage, slow & squishy. Here, take my money! Not.

Cerberus would be close to your alley. Quad ballistics + quad energy, mostly high mounted, runs 64 kph at 95 tons. http://www.sarna.net...rus_(BattleMech) No ECM though, but is definitely a mech worth asking PGI for. Will most likely get the additional sensor range quirk due to lore.

Edited by El Bandito, 25 May 2018 - 12:25 AM.

[Bishop Six]

El Bandito, on 25 May 2018 - 12:17 AM, said:

Cerberus would be close to your alley. Quad ballistics + quad energy, mostly high mounted, runs 64 kph at 95 tons. http://www.sarna.net...rus_(BattleMech) No ECM though, but is definitely a mech worth asking PGI for.

Thx Bandito, always like too read your presentations!

That thing would be nice!

Also, gimme please a good (!) Heavy again, humanoid like Warhammer and one Heavy for mobility and flying fun (How many good JJ-Mechs does IS have?)

When PGI is upgrading FP at least a bit, i'd buy new mechs like this.

[FLG 01]

Bishop Six, on 25 May 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

I mean really, what were the last good IS mechs coming out? For me Cyclops & Bushwacker...since then...nothing.

The Javelin is as good as a light SRM-bomber chassis can be, and despite being held back by minimal quirks it works well in game.
The Annihilator is kind of the opposite, since the chassis is rather bad but god-tier quirks (higher engine cap plus armour and offensive quirks) make it one of the best assaults availble.
Btw., the Nightstar could have been great had PGI not ruined the sleek and slim torso design, making it short, stubby and wide, easily doubling its frontal profile...

Anyway, you have to keep in mind the community wanted crap and they got exactly the crap they wanted. They were warned about the IS MW:4-originals (Uziel, Hellspawn, Thanatos), but still they wanted them.
It is too easy, too convenient to blame PGI when the community actively seeks out weak Mechs.
Take a look at the current polls. The Hollander is number one by a large margin, and that one would be the single worst Mech chassis ever.

Problem is the community's attitude. Instead of "I know this Mech, soooo iconic!!!!111" we need more "oh well, I did not know this Mech, but I might actually enjoy it in MWO".