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#1 Lurm God

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 06:47 PM

After noting a player pushing himself and getting above myself in div 1 I looked to push the bar a bit higher for him. He posted this picture in the facebook discord

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I then took it upon myself to play 10 matches and re screenshot it.

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#2 Bluttrunken

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 08:16 PM

If you fight against low ELO enemies your score will, obviously, not change much. That's how it's supposed to work.

#3 Tesunie

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 08:40 PM

I will note your SSR (I presume the "Elo" you speak of?) did go up by 7 points.

The problem with being so high up on the SSR ranking is that, when fighting against someone with lower ranking you don't gain as much if you win. So, it depends upon whom your opponents where and what their SSR ranking was when fighting against you.

So, 7 extra SSR points for 10 wins. Means you are earning less than a point on some of those matches... Seems like it might be literally working as intended? Then again, SSR seems more based on number of matches played than match performance (though match performance obviously does have an impact.)

(Now mind, I'm no expert here.)

#4 Lurm God

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:39 PM

Some of these pilots were of 1800 SSR and a few the rest were 1500-1800. Some of them were almost in the top 100 of solaris lol.

#5 Surn

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Posted 01 June 2018 - 09:40 PM

That is averaged over 7 divisions ...so 7 points is actually 49 total points or 5 pts per match

#6 Yondu Udonta

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 03:29 AM

View PostSurn, on 01 June 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

That is averaged over 7 divisions ...so 7 points is actually 49 total points or 5 pts per match

You darn fool that's T1 alone.

View PostLurm God, on 01 June 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

After noting a player pushing himself and getting above myself in div 1 I looked to push the bar a bit higher for him.

Don't worry Lurm, you may not be 1st in T1, but in our hearts you are always 1st. And that monstrous WLR speaks volumes for itself.

#7 Tesunie

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 04:22 AM

View PostLurm God, on 01 June 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

Some of these pilots were of 1800 SSR and a few the rest were 1500-1800. Some of them were almost in the top 100 of solaris lol.


Don't know then.

I don't play Solaris much, and even then I kinda like D7... (I'm probably weird like that.)

#8 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 04:30 AM

Understand, this is how MWO Elo was explained back in 2012 when it was live before being replaced by PSR.

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__1626065


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One of the key calculations that needs to be done is to determine the probability of a lower ranked player beating a higher ranked player.

An example of this is, if two players of the same ranking have a 50% chance of winning each. The bigger the gap between the two player’s scores, the less probability of the lower score player beating the higher scored player.

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#9 Surn

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 06:12 AM

View PostYondu Udonta, on 02 June 2018 - 03:29 AM, said:

You darn fool that's T1 alone.


ahh!

#10 Lurm God

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 09:09 AM

I did it yondu I came back!

#11 Ghost Paladin117

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:18 PM

Shhhh sneaky bear here.

#12 Tier5 Kerensky

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 05:37 AM

View PostTarl Cabot, on 02 June 2018 - 04:30 AM, said:

Understand, this is how MWO Elo was explained back in 2012 when it was live before being replaced by PSR.

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__1626065


And exactly where it's said they are using the same system? Although they well might.

#13 Marius Evander

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:19 PM

I am currently 1 win 0 losses vs Lurm God in div 1 why aren't I in 1st ?

#14 Ghost Paladin117

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:26 PM

View PostCadoazreal, on 03 June 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

I am currently 1 win 0 losses vs Lurm God in div 1 why aren't I in 1st ?

Because you have to kill me first :)





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