Jump to content

Balance? Just Look At This.


7 replies to this topic

#1 Captain Caveman DE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Carnivore
  • The Carnivore
  • 517 posts

Posted 16 July 2018 - 04:58 AM

hello.

here my few humble cents concerning the pts;

-people there where almost all constructive and trying to bend/crash the system; cudos to that, the community does it's share.
-also more people there then last time, so either more interest or your small compensation works. either way: happy with that.

weapons (in pgi "balance" order):

-clan-gauss. wasn't as bad as imagined. still does nothing to balance it against IS gauss. makes it even more beginnner-UNFRIENDLY, which is bad. pls scratch it for the sake of beginners.

-er-small: you take a mediocre weapon (cause its NOT used AT ALL in fw/scouting, the more comp.crowd, which should tell you something), and make it a tad less "good". bad move.

-er-med: you're gonna make it extinct. it's that bad.

-er-large: ppl using 1-2 get punished. see light/med mechs. -> bad. however, with 3 without ghost, you create a fw-nightmare. bad is the wrong word. it's gonna kill fw on a lot of maps.

-med puls: bad move. if it were overperforming, again: you'd see it spammed in fw/scouting. which it is not. it is really easy to figure out that you don't have to nerf something most consider as "just not that good".

-lrg puls: again, punishing lights and meds, while assaults especially benefit. just don't.

-hvy medium: the what? exactly.. NOBODY uses that thing outside of fringe cases, and you decide to nerf it considerably. pls play your game, or TALK to people who do..
otoh you might as well bring it down to 1 dmg, 15 heat, as nobody uses that thing anyway.

-hvy large: eh.... I see where you're coming from, but it is the wrong solution. just makes the weapon more unattractive, where it's "6minute burntime" is a problem in the first place.


TL;DR - just scratch that. most of these are bad, and it shows. test it yourselves, I guess the community is happy to give your "overpowered clan-lasboat" a beating ;)
for the sake of this game, STOP looking at spreadsheets and START working with the community; Tarogato and his buddies have done tremendous work which reads itself WOLRDS better than what you did here.
you got a paying customer that wants to improve YOUR product. FOR FREE. you spit him in the face, time and again, instead of working with him (the community). no sane person does that.

let's put up a PTS with NONE of your changes but with all of Taros - and let's see how people react to that, eh? :)

Best regards,

#2 Jack Shayu Walker

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The God
  • The God
  • 1,451 posts

Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:37 AM

Chris thinks that because he got a position at PGI and he gets paid that he knows more about balancing a game than the collective intelligence of the player base. Well he's sorely mistaken.

#3 Captain Caveman DE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Carnivore
  • The Carnivore
  • 517 posts

Posted 16 July 2018 - 07:51 AM

I think it's not fair to nail this onto chris alone (see paul and his 'ideas'); but yeah..
it's kinda repetetive, isn't it?
they plan to screw things up; we tell 'em "this will screw things up"; they do it anyway.
then realise "we screwed A up, let's change B, C, and X then". and so on..

was planning to get the champion-pack, but the pts plus current patchnotes for tomorrow: not gonna happen.

#4 Jack Shayu Walker

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The God
  • The God
  • 1,451 posts

Posted 16 July 2018 - 08:09 AM

View PostCaptain Caveman DE, on 16 July 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

I think it's not fair to nail this onto chris alone (see paul and his 'ideas'); but yeah..
it's kinda repetetive, isn't it?
they plan to screw things up; we tell 'em "this will screw things up"; they do it anyway.
then realise "we screwed A up, let's change B, C, and X then". and so on..

was planning to get the champion-pack, but the pts plus current patchnotes for tomorrow: not gonna happen.


Yeah, it's getting out of hand now.

#5 -Spectre

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Star Colonel IV
  • Star Colonel IV
  • 120 posts

Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:23 AM

I would love to see a PTS with Tarogar's changes. Just after reading them, I'm not sure I want them in the game, but I would love to test them in a PTS in order to give them a chance.

#6 Captain Caveman DE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Carnivore
  • The Carnivore
  • 517 posts

Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:11 AM

View Post-Spectre, on 16 July 2018 - 09:23 AM, said:

I would love to see a PTS with Tarogar's changes. Just after reading them, I'm not sure I want them in the game, but I would love to test them in a PTS in order to give them a chance.


exactly; I would quite welcome a few of those changes, quite unsure about some others - but at least a lot of thought went into these - so testing that doesn't hurt, right? ;)

#7 RB55

    Member

  • Pip
  • Philanthropist
  • Philanthropist
  • 13 posts
  • LocationIndianapolis

Posted 17 July 2018 - 09:51 AM

The only way to get them to listen is cut off their cash flow. They want to destroy what we paid for? I for one will not spend another dime of my money on this game until PGI gets it together and stops nerfing. Get it right or don't put it into the game. Test it on test servers or something. Nerfing is making mechs and weapons we PAID for useless. Enough!

#8 MechaBattler

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Survivor
  • Survivor
  • 5,119 posts

Posted 17 July 2018 - 10:31 AM

I think Chris is more constrained by his more senior balance overlords than he let's on. That or he's basically a figurehead. Or more appropriately a bullseye for the community to gripe on. To the point of becoming a meme.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users