justcallme A S H, on 20 July 2018 - 12:51 AM, said:
Someone needs to take off the tin-foil hat
It's the same as a new account and the first 25 games establish your Tier / Rank in PSR for QP. Seems the first ~10 games do this for Solaris in each division as well. Bonus ELO for a win and also BONUS ELO for a loss (I had one loss that was -115).
So its working to 'seed' players properly IMO.
Try a bit less posting on the forums and more playing your first 10 games and be seeded with PSR accordingly. If you finished 10th overall you should have very little issue getting between 10-0 or 10-2 and then be into the top 15-20 on the leaderboards
instantly, I was.
I was #10 overall last season dude. Played the hell out of this mode, while we caught a few people cheating on video, they didn't do well on the scoreboard, the system was decent, easily improvable, but now...
It's broken. If you can't understand how, I'm not going to give you step by step instructions.
Less posting and more playing!?!?! Your whole season, if you game the system depends 100% on not just winning, but the "quality" of wins, in those FIRST TEN matches..... If you don't understand now, just go put your blinders on or smoke another bowl or something.
Not going to educate you further, maybe someone better at math will figure it out, maybe they won't.
Play some matches? You are actually the person I killed in my first match that night, I was on my way to bed, a bit tired and drunk, but I wanted to see what I'd heard, something about huge gains, I couldn't believe they'd make the same mistake two seasons in a row....
I actually thought you might beat me drunk/tired as I was, but nope....
I was 3-0 with 1970something elo, and I thought, this is just stupid, they're gunna reset it, they have to, this is two seasons in a row, same mistake....
...as I was under the impression that they made the same mistake as last season, and they were likely to fix it very soon, perhaps while I slept, I decided that even if I played drunk and lost a few I might as well farm up one of the divisions and see what happens. Of course I lost the next 2 in a row against Lurm God, lol, who said, "you must be tired, because I'm rusty, lol." I farmed on... Climbing back up, forget how many matches later it was, when I lost to a gauss/something build I'd never previously lost to in that div, well, granted, I banned the map I always ban.... But, I figured, oh well, I'll keep farming, eventually I'll sober up and the elo will skyrocket, this multiplier is REDICULOUS... Then when the 10th match happend, I figured PGI had just hot fixed the game. Forget what my score was at 10 matches 1870ish...
I went to bed thinking they had made the same mistake 2 seasons in a row, but no one farmed it up enough to get ahead as far as one guy did in Div 7 last season (and you can't blame him, no one knew the system was broken, it was brand new, the guy legit went 78-0, and why would he ever play again after the fix, he was so high, the only way he could lose all that unattainable ELO would be to play, because without losing, no one could possibly catch him).
Granted, last season, I was 1450something wins and like 300-400 losses.... I got bored last season, I think they are too long, I climbed as high as 7th overall and 3rd in some individual divisions. I don't like a system that encourages you to play to the top, then stop, because of the risk/reward.... But, I'd stop, because I know odds, stats, etc...
....then I'd come home drunk and tank all the way down to 25th overall. Bad idea, but whatever.... At least it gave me something to do, ,because now I can play Solaris and farm back up..... I yo-yo'd between top 10 and I don't think in my worst drunken loss fest I dipped below 25th overall for the last 90 days.... I had no problem grinding back up because, it was my bad decision making drunk ***'s fault I tanked my elo again....
Not gunna grind upward, and I'm guessing as I beat you drunk that you have no earthly idea what a grind it is to grind past 2100.... Not gunna teach you anymore either.... But I'll be damned if I play right and get to 2100, or whatever.... Then have to grind past 2300 to overtake the leader with 10-0 (sync dropping against a buddy wanting to lose like people last season did tanking their elo below #100 to get the GXP)... or even 25-0, (just sync drop against a buddy or himself on his laptop with a trial account15 more times to get the 25 match rule). Fair play is easily exploitable by cheaters, or exploiters, or whatever you want to call it. The Season 2 system is way worse than you realize...
Then after talking to another of the top guys from last season, we figured out further how much worse a mistake they made with this system, and scratched our heads on how anyone could think this would "work" like you seem to think it will, lol, without someone breaking the obvious flaw, which by now you'll either get or you won't. Really don't care, lol.
The smart, top player not to be named who was explaining it to me as he understood it to date, figured, even if we pointed it out, that the forums, as they are, no one would be smart enough in here to get how easily exploitable this Points System is at the moment. I figured someone would, you apparently don't, which is fine, the sooner it gets out to people who do get it and want to, for whatever reason, I don't, I want PGI to fix it, so I can play 2000 matches again, and not get TROLLED by someone willing to cheat. And they can do it without risking any money or account or anything, because they can do it anonymously, with brand new free accounts. There are other more insidious ways to game this system, but I'm done explaining how exploitable this is.
I'm not gunna play unless this gets fixed.
Not gunna put TIME into a SYSTEM like this that can be EXPLOITED because it is VULNERABLE. Just as...
I would not put MONEY into a BANK that can be ROBBED because THEY LEAVE THE DOOR UNLOKED.
But you go on drinking the cool-aid...
I played like 2000 matches last season. Not gunna just go in, play like this isn't broken, then watch someone willing to CHEAT, overtake EVERYONE who doesn't by cheating. And it's a sliding scale, there are times of day when better players are usually on that you'd want to avoid to maintain some modicum of integrity while playing the first 10 and not lose, but each loss that you could have controlled could equal 10+ hours of grinding.... I've grinded because I was drunk and wanted to play, not gunna grind because they broke the Points System.
And, what's worse, you don't need to even know how to play the game, you just need 2 computers and 2 free accounts, or 2 guys with free, brand new accounts.... Well, it's a little more complicated than that, but I guess, "if" no one in the community is smart enough, or anyone cares enough to do so, then the leaderboard won't get trolled by new accounts on fake email addresses named, "FIX THIS GAME MODE" or whatever.
Something tells me there are enough PGI haters out there, that plans are already in motion...
Don't say I didn't warn you when whatever your best score is after 3 months of fair play gets easily overtaken by people EXPLOITING this broken, broken system.
Edited by Dartangan, 20 July 2018 - 06:18 AM.