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#1 Grus

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:55 PM

Blizzard is releasing crap/broken content, Bethesda is relesing garbage, pgi's current patch is riddled with holes, and other AAA developers are releasing alpha test quality games for full price... so what the heck is going on? Is it the end times?

#2 MechaBattler

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:01 PM

Those companies have no excuse for putting out broken content. PGI is a tiny studio and less experienced than either of those. It's not really fair to put them on there. Broken stuff with PGI is pretty standard issue. They've rebuilt the cryengine so much that it probably can't even really be called a cryengine anymore.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:03 PM

View PostMechaBattler, on 12 December 2018 - 06:01 PM, said:

Those companies have no excuse for putting out broken content. PGI is a tiny studio and less experienced than either of those. It's not really fair to put them on there. Broken stuff with PGI is pretty standard issue. They've rebuilt the cryengine so much that it probably can't even really be called a cryengine anymore.

Grandiose delusion is strong with this one.

#4 Wil McCullough

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:04 PM

To be fair, blizzard hasn't put out anythin with staying power in quite a while.
Bethesda is notorious for releasing game-breaking bug ridden titles.
So everything is normal on those fronts lol.

What other AAA studios have released crap recently? I honestly can't think of any.

#5 MechaBattler

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:07 PM

View PostJackal Noble, on 12 December 2018 - 06:03 PM, said:

Grandiose delusion is strong with this one.


Which part was delusional? The part where those other companies are AAA studios and PGI is tiny by comparison? Or the part where they rebuilt parts of the cryengine? Because that's pretty much what "UI2.0" was. They spent like half a year reworking the engine.

#6 FupDup

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:07 PM

This is why I rotate between a selection of older games rather than buying every new shiny thing that comes out. As time passes this arrangement seems to be getting more and more wise...

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:08 PM

View PostMechaBattler, on 12 December 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:


Which part was delusional? The part where those other companies are AAA studios and PGI is tiny by comparison? Or the part where they rebuilt parts of the cryengine? Because that's pretty much what "UI2.0" was. They spent like half a year reworking the engine.

No, the part where you make excuses for others.

Edited by Jackal Noble, 12 December 2018 - 06:08 PM.


#8 LordNothing

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:19 PM

the only people putting out good games anymore is the indie sector. the reasons for this are many:

not constrained by established genres, great for niche games.
close knit dev teams that actually care about the end product.
not pushing for state of the art technology and stick with whats proven.
focus on gameplay over graphics.
original ips means less money going to lawyers more to dev.

#9 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:51 PM

Bethesda has always released games riddled with bugs and relied on the community to fix it for them for free. So, there's no surprise there.

blizzard couldn't care less about. But I don't think they've released anything sub-standard other than what the hardcore fans believed to be devoid of what they cared about.

I'm new to comment on PGI's efforts but if the current patch is an indication of what has been going on for a long time, then yeah. It's time for a rethink there.

Other AAA titles save for a few, like The Witcher 3, I feel they're lacklustre and I don't buy most of them. Not at full price anyway.

#10 Mcgral18

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:58 PM

End times? No, just this
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View PostFupDup, on 12 December 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

This is why I rotate between a selection of older games rather than buying every new shiny thing that comes out. As time passes this arrangement seems to be getting more and more wise...


Open Xcom (the 1994 version) and Mount and Blade
Two things I can wholeheartedly recommend
One can be free, the other for under 10$ regularly.
Both over 10 years old.

#11 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 12 December 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

Open Xcom (the 1994 version) and Mount and Blade
Two things I can wholeheartedly recommend
One can be free, the other for under 10$ regularly.
Both over 10 years old.


Mount & Blade: Warband definitely. The number of mods for that game makes it worthy to never uninstall it.

#12 Sergeant Destroy

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:16 PM

View PostGrus, on 12 December 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

Blizzard is releasing crap/broken content, Bethesda is relesing garbage, pgi's current patch is riddled with holes, and other AAA developers are releasing alpha test quality games for full price... so what the heck is going on? Is it the end times?

Obviously u havent played the latest Battlefield...
In a nutshell they`re trying to sell beefed up f2p games for 50+ bucks.

#13 Cazador88

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:57 PM

View PostSergeant Destroy, on 12 December 2018 - 09:16 PM, said:

Obviously u havent played the latest Battlefield...
In a nutshell they`re trying to sell beefed up f2p games for 50+ bucks.


And sneaking in either loot boxes or micros after release once that 50+ is just not enough anymore to satisfy the greed of their investors and their own too of course, or releasing early access alpha quality games renamed as "live service games" or even both of the above. Good thing i said F**k these c***s years ago now it spared me a lot of money and grief.

#14 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 12:06 AM

View Posttollas669, on 12 December 2018 - 09:57 PM, said:

And sneaking in either loot boxes or micros after release


As a side note, do you guys think that Loot Boxes in games should mean that companies that implement them should be forced to acquiring a gambling license? I'm not talking about free loot boxes where you grind some challenges out in the game and you get rewarded with random gifts. I'm talking about FIFA, NBA, etc., type games where people spend real money and not get what they actually paid for.

I don't know if you've read an article where a guy in the UK (I believe it was) didn't know how much he had spent on FIFA Ultimate Team cards. He needed an invoice for something. So he asked the EA customer service for it and he was given a record for all of his transactions. Turns out that he had spent over £ 10,000.

Now, I'm not against people spending their money on whatever but the companies should be procuring the type of license that their product reflects. If there is gambling involved and let's face it, "loot boxes" is basically gambling, then they should get a gambling license.

#15 Aidan Crenshaw

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 12:31 AM

Supply Caches got changed in April just for that gambling reason. You had to obtain a key to open them before. These could be won through challenges or bought with MC.

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 12:36 AM

View PostAidan Crenshaw, on 13 December 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

Supply Caches got changed in April just for that gambling reason. You had to obtain a key to open them before. These could be won through challenges or bought with MC.


Oh. Well, I wouldn't mind getting those keys for rarer loot. I mean, we do get some MC from the events. But if the keys are equivalent to MC obtained from more than 3 challenges from events, then no.

#17 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 12:47 AM

View PostWil McCullough, on 12 December 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

What other AAA studios have released crap recently? I honestly can't think of any.

Ubisoft with the latest AC riddled with microtransactions
Pretty much anything by EA with all the gambling mechanics
Capcom putting ads into SFV

Ten there's stuff outside the games;
Rockstar / Take-Two suing a website for releasing accurate info about RDR2
CD Projekt Red with it's love of crunch and poor employee treatment
[Edit] Talltale laying off 250 employees without pay when it had to close the doors [/Edit]

AAA studios are all slowly turning into scumbags, it's a shame...

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 13 December 2018 - 12:55 AM.


#18 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 12:57 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 13 December 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

As a side note, do you guys think that Loot Boxes in games should mean that companies that implement them should be forced to acquiring a gambling license?

Loot boxes are gambling, so yes.

There was an article in the UK noting the rise in under aged gambling addiction and it just so happens to coincide with the release of Overwatch and other AAA game following suite...

BBC article
Jim Sterling talks about it [NSFW]

EA are going to court in Belgium to defend gambling in FIFA, that's how bad this garbage has gotten...

Nieuwsblad article
Jim Sterling talks about it [NSFW]

#19 MrVaad

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 02:31 AM

Just wanted to add that "crunch time" has been a thing in the video game industry for tens of years.
Some companys have/had beds at work for employees during crunch time.

The famous "EA Spouse" was the biggest scandal in the last decade.
You can read about this here https://medium.com/@...ow-68860048be7c

So have a little though before/after a big game release (or big patch), think about the little guys in "crunching mode" Posted Image

Edited by MrVaad, 13 December 2018 - 02:42 AM.


#20 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 02:42 AM

View PostMrVaad, on 13 December 2018 - 02:31 AM, said:

Just wanted to add that "crunch time" has been a thing in the video game industry for tens of years.
Some companys have/had beds at work for employees during crunch time.

So have a little though before/after a big game release (or patch), think about the little guys in "crunching mode" Posted Image

Yep, scumbag practice for over a decade - the AAA gaming industry at it's finest!





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