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[Benjamin357]

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that Nascar -- for lack of a better word -- is good.
Nascar is right.
Nascar works.
Nascar clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
Nascar, in all of its forms -- nascar for XP, for C-Bills, for Achievements, Glory -- has marked the upward surge of MechKind.
And nascar -- you mark my words -- will not only save Kurita, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the Inner Sphere.

[HammerMaster]

Benjamin357, on 16 January 2019 - 12:08 PM, said:

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that Nascar -- for lack of a better word -- is good.
Nascar is right.
Nascar works.
Nascar clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
Nascar, in all of its forms -- nascar for XP, for C-Bills, for Achievements, Glory -- has marked the upward surge of MechKind.
And nascar -- you mark my words -- will not only save Kurita, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the Inner Sphere.

[K O Z A K]

Benjamin357, on 16 January 2019 - 12:08 PM, said:

MechKind

It's 2019, we like to say vehiclekind. Not necessarily mechkind. It's just more inclusive.

[Spheroid]

Mechs have engines for the purpose of locomotion. Use them.

A symmetrical nascar will always eventually result in combat owing to speed differences between the heavy and light elements. The alternative of not moving results in boring [Redacted] cowardice on Frozen city where your body, your brain is not active for five or ten minutes.

Bad nascar is always better than "good", stimulation free camping. Videogames are about neurons firing. As QP lacks a higher purpose the end result is pointless. Better to have higher neural activity than a fifteen minute snoozefest.

Edited by draiocht, 18 January 2019 - 12:31 PM.
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[Benjamin357]

Yep, the worst strategy is where someone calls out "No Nascar!" and then the team, like lemmings follows that order, interpreted as:
Grow roots, standaround potato party.

[Dread Render]

Unless your in an assault mech.
then your ******

Its ok i guess if you consider the Assaults and go in their direction.

Edited by Dread Render, 16 January 2019 - 12:59 PM.

[R Valentine]

Dread Render, on 16 January 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

Unless your in an assault mech.
then your ******

Its ok i guess if you consider the Assaults and go in their direction.

EXE with MASC. Come at me bro! Just don't go over a small hill or rise or my weapons won't be able to hit you.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Will never understand why someone believes the absolute worst tactic in 90% of the situations is the ONLY tactic that is good.

Honestly, I am not saying that NASCAR is never the proper tactic but I will say it is never the proper tactic when your NASCARing just to NASCAR. You have to look at the map and see what is going on.

You will 100% lose if your NASCAR tail is slower than the enemies NASCAR tail and you have to be able to identify when that is happening, halt your NASCAR and push in another direction be that right back into the teeth of the enemy or maybe straight across into their flank instead of chasing their rear.

Also, there is a time when the NASCAR needs to stop and this is why the NASCAR rotates you into advantageous terrain that provides you superior positioning and fire lanes. It is also absolutely imperative that the leading elements of the NASCAR realize when they have found good positions and STOP to take advantage of those positions. NASCARing around out into open terrain for the sake of keeping up the rotation is a total fail tactic again 100% of the time.

Also, there are times when counter NASCAR works so, so much better than NASCAR simply because you are setting up a firing line with your Assaults, supporting your Assaults and are able to engage and destroy their vanguard before their trailing assault even get up the line to engage you. It also throws off their pace.

The ironic thing about all this is that success or failure of the team is nearly 100% in the hands of all those fast lights and mediums running around in circles that love to blame the slow "Underperforming" assault mech pilots when things go wrong. If those mechs in the vanguard aren't paying attention to the evolving situation and adapting to those situations as I mentioned above, then THEY, not the assaults cost their team the victory. Also, it is because those fast light/medium pilots are NASCARing just to NASCAR without knowing, understanding or even caring about what is actually going on with the rest of the team and the map, that NASCAR is generally a fail tactic left up to chance with the winner based which team is lucky enough to get a slightly faster set of mechs. Honestly, flipping a coin is not a tactic but that is what you're doing if you buy into the NASCAR and nothing else.

[BIOHAZARD]

Nascar exists because it works.

It works because assaults are generally useless anyways.

Assaults are generally useless because they are piloted mostly by newbies, looking to stay in the game by bringing more armor and firepower.

Nascar exists, because people discovered that discarding your slow pieces of scrap metal, and letting the enemy chew on them, might allow to kill off some of the enemy heavier part in the meantime, giving them a solid shot at actually winning against their mediums and lights. Especially if these get a bit chewed on before, as well. Sorry, but this is not going away until teams are matched in quality, or people get better at this game.

There is a very simple cure to Nascar: as the name suggests, you're supposed to ASSAULT. Be the one pushing and they will line up behind you, I promise.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

This thread is like reading the Art of War.

So much insight

[R Valentine]

BIOHAZARD, on 16 January 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

Assaults are generally useless because they are piloted mostly by newbies...

Implying this game has new players. XD

[Xmith]

Benjamin357, on 16 January 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

Yep, the worst strategy is where someone calls out "No Nascar!" and then the team, like lemmings follows that order, interpreted as:
Grow roots, standaround potato party.

Exactly this.

You may have to kiss that win goodbye once someone starts bitchin about Nascar.

[LordNothing]

too much generalization. nascar can work if its done as a tactic. but most of the time it grows organically like some kind of wild fungus. and those are the ones that turn into losses. if people arent checking to see if they are following lights or where the assaults are before committing to nascar, you are probibly going to loose, unless maybe enemy does same.

[S t P a u l y]

Angel of Annihilation, on 16 January 2019 - 02:09 PM, said:

Also, there is a time when the NASCAR needs to stop and this is why the NASCAR rotates you into advantageous terrain that provides you superior positioning and fire lanes. It is also absolutely imperative that the leading elements of the NASCAR realize when they have found good positions and STOP to take advantage of those positions. NASCARing around out into open terrain for the sake of keeping up the rotation is a total fail tactic again 100% of the time.

smart smart smart smart smart.

BIOHAZARD, on 16 January 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

Nascar exists because it works.

It works because assaults are generally useless anyways.

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Why does Nascar always go in an anti-clockwise direction? Every single time. I have never been in a clockwise direction Nascar.

[Benjamin357]

FRAGTAST1C, on 16 January 2019 - 07:27 PM, said:

Why does Nascar always go in an anti-clockwise direction? Every single time. I have never been in a clockwise direction Nascar.

One reason is that most Mechs have more weapons on their right side, so a counter clockwise rotation allows for better shooting from cover in that situation. You do see counter rotations sometimes.

[Anjian]

There should be a treatise called The Art of NASCAR, by Shih Tzu. They call him Shih Tzu because he likes to chase his furry tail.

[Nightbird]

God forbid any light mech from moving their throttle above 50% without an assault screaming 'Stop Nascaring!!!'

[Novakaine]

Not nascar, but follow the noob in front of you.

[Knuckles OTool]

You mean walk slowly and try and find that one lonely mech at the enemies rear while blocking firing lanes? Best tactic ever if you always drop down whenever there is a hill or ledge.

https://youtu.be/q_MYwcXPOyM

Edited by Knuckles OTool, 16 January 2019 - 10:04 PM.