Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
How does the nerfing of LRMs lead to LRMageddon? Not following the logic.
Because there would be a short burst of people trying them out all at once.
Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
IDF is the entire purpose of LRMs. If you want DF guided missiles use ATMs, they are vastly better.
Under 270m. That being said, it doesn't matter what you think it's role, it's the result. LRMs being vastly better on their own than they were before, that was the point.
It's less unique, but it works. ATMs still kinda works on mid-range, so LRMs that have better ROF and heat-efficiency would mean ATM is owned at mid-range. Believe it or not, the game doesn't revolve only on 270m.
The real problem of ATMs is it's lack of Ammo-Switching, which would have allowed us to balance ATMs as three different weapons.
Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
You think making LRMs worse at IDF and slightly better at DF, but still worse than every other weapon at DF, is a buff? Because its not.
Yes it is.
Because a buff is referenced by where it stands before, and it will stand better than before because it would work better than before due to immense factors in LOS use such as faster lock acquisition and time to target, which is VITAL to the success of landing LRMs.
Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
Making a weapon worse at what its supposed to be good at (IDF and long range) and better what its not supposed to be good (DF and short-medium range) can in no way be considered a net buff. Its a net overall nerf. And worse than that its just genericizing LRMs by undermining what makes them unique from other weapons (IDF).
No, YOU won't consider it a net buff (like somehow you're the authority about this), on the grounds that somehow, just because it's less unique, less better than it's supposed niche, it's a nerf.
Wrong, just wrong. The problems of LRMs is it's poor time to target which is why it's not that useful at extremely long range where it's supposedly used for, the spread, and the need to lock. The LOS use, though sacrifices safety a bit, solves a lot of the problem, such as smaller spread, faster time to target, and faster lock time. We tested that in PTS, and we saw good results.
Like i said,
It's only a nerf if you're using it IDF. LRMs should now be better at contributing to the match over all due to LOS use, and if you just restrict yourself in IDF use then it's your fault, not the changes' fault.
Use it as DF and it would work far better than it is before, it's not competitive with other DF weapons, but again it is better than what it was before. Granted, there are problems, like PGI double-downing on locking issues such as the smaller lock cone compounded with long lock time.
Effective IDFing means an effective team, not just an effective individual. Unless your team is at the same page with spotting, they won't be that reliable in holding locks for you. "Hold locks plz", remember that? It's just unreasonable to ask random people to spot for you if they aren't equipped for it.
This is where TAG and NARC come in for spotting builds, it's understood that they are there to spot for you so you could IDF more reliably, and by making them necessary for effective spotting, means the power could be focused more on DF which is just better team contribution at all without reliable spotter, and thereby better chance of contributing to the team more than simply leeching them for score. This also should make spotting builds more common, because they are somewhat forced into the game by such a role.
If you still can't understand that, I can't help you.
Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
You really dont have to worry about LRMageddon
Not really worried, just asking, cause I'm excited for it.
Khobai, on 18 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:
however I do think ATMs will get used more now that LRMs have been relegated to being worse ATMs. IDF was the only reason to use LRMs over ATMs and weakening that only makes ATMs that much more favorable.
I use LRMs for higher sustained DPS at range, problem with ATMs is that they are WAAAY hotter than LRMs so using them other than their sweet spot is poor heat efficiency, ATMs basically work worse than LRMs in mid-range, and it's a complete waste at Long-Range. LRMs on the other hand, not only with LOS it can land faster and thereby extending it's supposedly effective range of 400m, it works far better at long range with ATMs, which allows it to reign over ATMs in mid-range to long-range, which is still fine.
Edited by The6thMessenger, 18 February 2019 - 03:37 AM.