21 replies to this topic

[Dionnsai]

Getting very very tired of killing trial night stars. Just give them an ANH-2A with 6 ac2 so they at least have something competitive to use.


Nuff Said:



in fact, make a trial mech for every division that can at least hold its own

[Alcom Isst]

No! We must haze the new players to weed out the scrubs that don't deserve to play our beautiful game.

This is the philosophy adopted by Piranha House of Farts and I will continue to mock them for it unless they prove otherwise.

Almost every trial mech in the game needs to be redone and given a skill tree so we aren't giving new players mech-shaped turds to play with.

Edited by Alcom Isst, 05 March 2019 - 11:56 AM.

[Ghost Paladin117]

Lol. Naw. New players can buy a div 1 mech with starting credits if they want.

[Dionnsai]

yeah but they're new and would buy the wrong one

Ghost Paladin117, on 05 March 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Lol. Naw. New players can buy a div 1 mech with starting credits if they want.

also, I don't remember giving you permission to speak, get back in your kennel!

if it were up to me at this point though, I'd move everything from div 1 except the anni, king crabs, acw, iv4, slepnir....what else can win here?

[Alcom Isst]

Dionnsai, on 05 March 2019 - 02:34 PM, said:

....what else can win here?

Scorch.

[Dionnsai]

Alcom Isst, on 05 March 2019 - 03:16 PM, said:

Scorch.

[Alcom Isst]

Dionnsai, on 05 March 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

Scorch.

[KhanBhacKeD]

Correction, scorch with a good player in ;l

[Dionnsai]

I guess, but it also requires that the guy in the anni doesn't know how to deal with it, that or the scorch can force ties on steiner.

Also, in solaris as is, I wouldn't consider 25 matches a good sample size, that could be 25 pilots in night stars, kodiaks and arctic wolves. 25 is just the bare minimum to show up on the board for rankings, there are plenty of pilots who play 25 matches to get rewards @ the end of season but then don't expose themselves further.

Additionally, there seem to be ways to manipulate which mech shows up on that listing, so there is no guarantee that this particular mech was used for all 25 matches.

Edited by Dionnsai, 06 March 2019 - 10:07 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

TBH it would be good if there were 7 Trial Mechs. One for each division. Hell make it 14 and give people two options!


The bigger issue is though - Skill tree. Without any skill tree it doesn't really matter what mechs people get given is there is a 20pt armour difference in a single location and huge DPS differential.

[Pain G0D]

If trial mechs were super cool and capable , why would we spend cbills for other mechs ?

[Alcom Isst]

Pain G0D, on 06 March 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

why would we spend cbills for other mechs ?

Because they earned them while playing trial mechs.

Having a few good mechs removes the drive to acquire more mechs and more options? It does not.

[Ghost Paladin117]

Dionnsai, on 05 March 2019 - 02:34 PM, said:

yeah but they're new and would buy the wrong one


also, I don't remember giving you permission to speak, get back in your kennel!

if it were up to me at this point though, I'd move everything from div 1 except the anni, king crabs, acw, iv4, slepnir....what else can win here?

Haha I can't hear too well from up here, you'll have to yell louder from the top of that Anni.

Yeah more trial mechs for Solaris, like per division would be interesting. Although I do enjoy seeing the occasional trial nightstar

[justcallme A S H]

Alcom Isst, on 06 March 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

Because they earned them while playing trial mechs.

Having a few good mechs removes the drive to acquire more mechs and more options? It does not.

Correct.

Get some end of seasons rewards maybe, get a feel for a mech you like, maybe even improve the experience a little?

There is no downside IMO.

[Horseman]

Pain G0D, on 06 March 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

If trial mechs were super cool and capable , why would we spend cbills for other mechs ?

You're exaggerating the matter. Trial mechs tend to be bad (or horribly outdated) builds that are barely - if at all - viable for use. All we're calling for is that the trial mechs use reasonably current builds that give the newbies a fighting chance.
And as far as the skill tree is concerned, let's be fair - for newbie players the only thing that will make a difference is a somewhat-filled Survival tree.

Edited by Horseman, 07 March 2019 - 07:48 AM.

[MechWarrior5782621]

They should make an all trial mech division. That way no one has any skill trees, so it's fair.

Some chassis might be better than others, but they can balance it by putting crappier loadouts on the better chassis.

[Dionnsai]

Fainting Goat, on 07 March 2019 - 04:36 AM, said:

They should make an all trial mech division. That way no one has any skill trees, so it's fair.

Some chassis might be better than others, but they can balance it by putting crappier loadouts on the better chassis.

Not a good idea, we already have 7(14) buckets in solaris, more is not the answer

[Makenzie71]

I have to say that having more divisions is a bad idea...but i LOVE the idea of an all stock division. Ditch div 7...it sucks and no one plays it anyway. Replace it with an all stock, no custom build, no skill tree division.

I hate the trial nightstar. It can make skilled pilots look like total potatoes. that thing can be a real monster when driven right. I even carried half a dozen or so matches with it last season and i hate UAC’s (i seriously don’t understand how you people can make UAC’s work for you).

[Ghost Paladin117]

Yeah Div 7 right now is kind of bland. Could just add all trial mechs to it and keep the current ones that are there. They are pretty useless anyways.

[HammerMaster]

I'm not sure "Pugs" applies in this case.
Surely you mean new/UN-established players?