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Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:30 AM



Upcoming Patch - 19th March 2019 @ 10AM – 1PM PDT
Patch Number: 1.4.198.0
Standalone Client Patch Size: 532MB
Please note that due to compression differences the Steam patch size may be larger than the standalone client patch size.




New 'Mech: Corsair

You can check out the Countdown post for more details about the Corsair 'Mech as they are released!

Order them in the Store page here!

The 2019 Winter Holiday Giveaway for the Corsair Hero 'Mech will be released to players who had completed the 2019 Winter Holiday Giveaway. Check your eligibility here!


The following 'Mech Chassis have undergone 3060s weapon retrofits:

  • Bushwacker
  • Kodiak
  • Supernova
  • Marauder IIC
  • Huntsman
  • Night Gyr
  • Viper



Bolt-On retrofits have been expanded to the following 'Mech chassis:

  • Bushwacker
  • Huntsman
  • Marauder IIC
  • Night Gyr
  • Supernova
  • Viper
  • Warhammer IIC



Maps
Re-release of the following classic Quick Play maps for Assault, Skirmish, and Conquest:

Forest Colony Classic



Forest Colony Winter Classic


Frozen City Classic (Day version)


Frozen City Classic (Night version)












    Tuning and Value Changes

    Based on the results of the recent LRM Updates PTS and player feedback, this month we are releasing a very large overhaul of a number of systems that feed into the LRM weapon systems. This overhaul has been focused on the following points:

    • Introduction of more clearly defined direct fire vs. indirect fire behavior for LRMs and the Weapon Lock-on system.
    • A focus towards giving each firing mode of LRMs their own distinct give and take.
    • Overall buffs to direct fire capabilities of LRMs, with overall nerfs to indirect fire through weapon properties and mechanic changes.
    • Updates to AMS, TAG, and NARC systems accounting for these new mechanical changes.

    The net sum of the changes being introduced this month result in a major re-work of not just LRMs as a weapon, but also the core weapon lock-on mechanics and the way that various equipment interacts within these systems. With these changes we are not aiming to subvert the utility of indirect fire in favor of the weapon becoming more apt at direct fire, but to provide a proper weapon and system balancing pass in order to better reward those that do expose themselves to return fire when using LRMS, while providing more direct drawbacks to indirect fire that make it more difficult to use effectively at extreme ranges without team coordination.

    Weapon Lock-On system Overhaul

    We have decided to move away from a universal weapon lock-on system into something with more depth depending on your overall position and ‘Mech configuration relevant to the target you are attempting to acquire a weapon lock on against. While also bringing more direct importance to the sensor system with how it relates to indirect fire weapon locks. Like LRM direct vs. indirect fire, the weapon lock-on system will now be broken up into two distinct states dependent on if you have direct LOS to the target or not.

    Direct Line of Sight:

    • Attempting a weapon lock in direct LOS will see a 20% reduction in weapon lock-on time over the previous universal lock-on base time.
    • This rate is a flat rate that applies equally across all ranges provided you have direct LOS to the target. Furthermore, this value cannot be augmented in any way.

    No Direct Line of Sight:

    • Indirect Weapon Lock-on time will now be dependent on the range of the target relative to your max sensor range.
    • Indirect locks attempted at close range will retain a lock-time identical to the previous universal lock-on time.
    • The further out the target is relative to your max sensor range, the longer this time will take to acquire. With anything at extreme range or past max sensor range taking the longest time to acquire a lock compared to locks attempted at closer relative sensor range.
    • These lock-on times are treated as base values, and as such are modified in both positive and negative ways by equipment such as ECM, TAG, and NARC.
    • Sensor range increases can potentially impact your indirect-lock-on time dependent on where the target is relative to your total sensor range.
    • TAG and NARC will have expanded functionality in how they will interact with indirect fire described below to account for these changes.

    The video below demonstrates the difference between Direct LOS locks, compared to short range indirect locks compared to extreme range. Note that there are intermittent steps between the short and long range lock-on process dependent on the target’s relationship to your max sensor range.


    Design notes: We want to put added emphasis on the fact that the values gained through this new system and tested through the PTS series are considered “baseline” values. And as such, they will bear the brunt of lock-on time buffs / debuffs more severely depending on their relationship to the target. This is particularly important when it comes to how ECM interacts with target time against out of LOS targets under ECM cover.

    In these cases, the increases to indirect fire time associated with being under ECM cover are now more pronounced against targets at longer sensor ranges, while closer sensor ranges will have the equipment behave similarly to how it operates now, with extreme ranges being particularly prohibitive to indirect LRM usage while the target is under ECM cover. This is intentional. As we want to see one of the primary benefits of ECM cover is to act as a further impediment to indirect locks and an aggressive counter to extreme-range indirect LRM fire. Pushing players to counterplay around these drawbacks through direct LOS locks, which are not impeded at any range, nor get any lock-on time debuff from ECM, or coordinating with team mates in a number of ways to either counter, subvert, or brute force your way through the drawbacks now associated with indirect lock-ons.

    LRMs

    New LRM Direct / Indirect fire behavior:

    The core change coming with this patch to LRMs will be the addition of unique LRM behavior dependent on if a firer has direct line of sight to its target or not at the time the weapon is fired.

    Direct Line of Sight:

    LRM volleys fired within LOS will now have new functionality that conveys the following changes over their current implementation:

    • A much shallower angle of attack for the missile volley resulting in the following benefits over the current implementation:
      • Around 40-45% reduction in time to target
      • Less time for AMS to shoot down missile volleys as they approach the target
      • Tuned to reliably be able to fire upon enemies under vertical cover from a distance, including under the overpasses of Crimson Strait from the island, as well as the low ground of Rubellite Oasis from various locations.
    • Attacks made in direct LOS will now have 20% tighter missile spread when compared to indirect fire.
      • For this initial roll out, direct fire LRMs will be set to a 10% buff to missile spread over previous universal spread values

    No Direct Line of Sight:

    • LRM volleys will arc in the same way they previously behaved.
    • Attacks made outside LOS will have 20% wider missile spread compared to shots made in direct LOS
      • For this initial roll out, indirect fire LRMs will be set to a 10% nerf to missile spread over the previous universal spread values.


    LRM Weapon Changes:

    LRM 5:

    • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 4.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 3.7 (from 4.55)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 5 (from 4)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 10
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 4.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 3.7 from (4.55)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty increased to 4 (from 3)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 15
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.7 (from 5.2)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 20
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.7 (from 5.2)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4
    • Clan LRM 5
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.05 (4.55)
      • Heat increased to 2.4 (from 2.25)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 5 (from 4)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • Clan LRM 10
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (from 4.55)
      • Heat increased to 4 (from 3.7)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 4 (from 3)
    • Clan LRM 15
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 6.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (5.55)
      • Heat increased to 5 (from 4.65)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • Clan LRM 20
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 6.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (from 5.55)
      • Heat increased to 6 (from 5.6)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)

    Below is a video highlighting the net results of these changes. Please note that we utilized dev-tools to achieve the indirect fire examples despite it being within direct LOS in order to properly highlight the differences in the new arc behavior:


    Design notes: In addition to the number of changes targeting the new functionality being introduced this month, we are also rolling over a number of heat related nerfs to LRMs tested through the PTS series. With all launchers gaining a bit more aggressive heat scale penalties, with clan launchers seeing their base heat increased in addition to the heat scale penalties.

    AMS

    Missile Projectile health vs. AMS Tuning:

    With this patch, we will be moving away from a global missile health setting to one that allows for finer tuning when it comes to individual missile interactions against the AMS system. The net effect of this change will see better efficiency for AMS against larger missile volley sizes, in addition to having a much more pronounced effect on non-LRM based missile systems.

    • Volley health is now tuned at the launcher level.
    • Smaller volleys will be tuned with more base health to allow for more missiles from smaller launchers to reach their targets.
    • Larger Volleys will be tuned to be more vulnerable to AMS fire, resulting in more physical missiles being destroyed against larger volleys.
    • The previous universal value will be set as a baseline and applied to LRM 5 launchers.
    • From there, larger launchers will have less health making them more vulnerable to AMS fire.
    • Additionally, all other missile systems have been tuned to account for this new AMS behavior, resulting more consistent AMS performance against non-LRM missile types.
    • While this will increase vulnerability, this tuning is still set to have AMS act as a “soft” counter that reduces potential damage from incoming shots, it is not tuned to be a hard counter that shuts down all missile play.

    AMS (Both Clan and Inner Sphere)

    • Range increased to 190 (from 165)
    • Max Range increased to 275 (from 250)

    Laser AMS (Both Clan and Inner Sphere)

    • Range Increased to 190 (from 165)
    • Max Range increased to 275 (from 250)

    TAG + NARC Feature Additions:

    TAG Changes:

    • Weapon Lock-on speed booster removed
    • Targets that are being painted by TAG are treated as if they are in direct LOS for the purposes of Weapon Lock-On time and Missile spread.

    Below is a video example of TAG’s new functionality in action compared to a base long range weapon lock.


    NARC Changes:

    • Targets with an active NARC pod attached to them are treated as if they are in direct LOS for the purposes of Missile Spread.

    Design Notes: One consistent bit of feedback we received through our tests of buffing direct fire LRM, but toning down indirect fire LRM was that there was still a desire to reinforce indirect fire potency through the use of team based equipment such as TAG and NARC. And that any nerfs we took off of the baseline LRM equipment should be rolled over as perks to the TAG and NARC systems. On this front we were in agreement. With the expanded functionality of the Weapon Lock-On system, and the new penalties to the spread from indirect fire, we feel it is fair enough to have ways of re-introducing LRM’s current indirect potency provided it is accomplished through teamwork with specialized equipment.

    When it comes to TAG, we are rolling the Weapon Lock-On property previously associated with TAG into the core Direct Fire Lock-On mechanics. Because of this, we are eliminating this boost on the base property of the weapon in order to further reinforce its primary role as a team boosting piece of equipment rather than a personal enhancement device.

    For NARC, we are only providing it with the boost to spread. This is due to the fact that the base NARC equipment keeps a sensor lock even outside of indirect LOS to the enemy. This is to allow a bit more time to respond to your ‘Mech being NARCed before longer ranged bombardments have a chance to lock onto you. However, locks against you will still have boosted spread potency.

    ATM

    • ATM 3
      • Velocity increased to 242 (from 220)
      • Indirect Spread set to 3.9 (New)
    • ATM 6
      • Velocity increased to 242 (from 220)
      • Indirect Spread set to 4.9 (New)
    • ATM 9
      • Velocity increased to 242 (from 220)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.5 (New)
    • ATM 12
      • Velocity increased to 242 (from 220)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.5 (New)

    Design notes: As ATMs will be equally effected by a number of downsides being introduced with the changes to lock on weapon systems, we will be giving them a velocity boost along with the LRMs to coincide with the changes made to the weapon lock-on systems.

    When it comes to spread value, while this is listed as a new stat, this is actually something that has been present on the launcher for a bit now. ATMs in the fiction are built with integrated Artemis systems. To replicate this bit of lore within our game, we replicate Artemis’ behavior through the equipment itself. With the change to the way direct vs. indirect spread works with LRMs, we will also be exposing this value that was previously hidden on the baseline ATM launchers. Like LRMs, we have applied a 10% nerf to the indirect spread for ATMs, but this was taken using the pre-Artemis properties of ATMs that previous was only something visible behind the scenes.

    Mech Quirks:

    AMS quirks:

    With the large buffs to the baseline properties of the AMS systems, we received PTS feedback that the new settings combined with a number of ‘Mechs with high value AMS quirks ended up shutting down missile play rather than acting as a soft counter for missile systems. While we still intend to keep AMS quirks as a part of a number of ‘Mechs flavor quirks, we have made an effort to tone down a number of these quirks to account for the incoming baseline balance changes. Some will see reductions, some will see their benefits shift over to set of 8 quirks, and some will see their quirks fully removed. A brief summary of the ‘Mechs that will be impacted by these changes:

    • JVN-10N & JVN-10F
    • WLF-1B
    • MLX-A
    • KFX-C
    • ADR-Prime
    • SHC-Prime
    • NVA-A & NVA-S
    • SMN-B & SMN-D
    • WHK-Prime

    New HSL quirk assignments:

    The following ‘Mechs have been provided with new HSL quirk assignments:

    • HSN-8P: LRM 5 HSL +1
    • UZL-BE: Light PPC HSL: +1
    • TBR-D: Streak Missile HSL: +1

    Hatamoto-Chi:

    • All variants receiving modest boosts to Bonus Armor quirks.

    Design notes: The Hatamoto-chi has performed a bit below the curve for our liking, and as such, will receive a bit more in the way of durability quirks.

    Warhammer IIC:

    • All variants to receive new Armor quirks
    • Nearly all Variants to receive slight boosts to offensive quirks.

    Design notes: We quirk ‘Mechs based on the final in-game model approved by the Art team. With the incorrect model being submitted for review previously, this meant that we would have to re-evaluate the corrected model entirety.

    Exact details to be provided in the PDF change table here.



    • Streak Missiles now properly target the Center Torso of the Cicada.
    • The Cicada CDA-3D now has proper Jump Jet animation
    • The Vapor Eagle and Charger Mech's cockpit no longer jolts when equipping or changing a cockpit item.
    • The Vapor Eagle Walking Cockpit item's right leg no longer has a minor animation issue
    • The Decals placed on the Mad Cat MK II will now be accurately positioned to where the player placed it.
    • The Catapult will no longer twitch when Jump Jetting while turned at the same time
    • The Piranha Mech AMS now works correctly when equipping 2 C-Laser AMS on the right and left torso.
    • The WHM-IIC-3 armor point increase no longer bugs when reducing armor points once the custom loadout is at max tonnage.
    • The Solaris ELO change value now displays properly.
    • Fixed an issue in Tourmaline Desert where 'Mechs would get stuck in places on cells G5, F5 and H6
    • Fixed an issue in Mining Collective where 'Mechs would get stuck in a spot on cells F5
    • Fixed an issue in Crimson Strait where 'Mechs would get stuck in a spot on cells F5
    • Fixed an issue in Liao Jungle where 'Mechs would get stuck in a spot on cells A1
    • Updated te End of Round screen to display the amount of time a player has spend on a capture point for the game modes of: Assault, Domination and Conquest.
    • Structure Quirks are now displayed in the same manner as Armor Quirks in the MechLab Loadout.
    • The Sensor Range stat is now displayed in the Mech Stats panel in the MechLab.
    • UI improvements for the Premium Time window now displays both player Active and Banked Premium Time.
    • Players can now activate partial amount of Premium Time through the game client instead of activating all.
    • A corrected version of the Warhammer IIC has replaced the one released in the February Patch. This version error occurred where the wrong ‘Mech model was released last patch and has now been corrected with this patch. This addresses the talon and overall size error, see image below for the before and after comparison:



    KNOWN ISSUE

    Solaris - Group member will automatically unready shortly after they ready up
    • User A and User B goes to Solaris
    • Both play a match first to create an Elo change
    • Return to Solaris mode screen
    • User A creates a group and invites User B into a group
    • Both Ready Up
    • After a few User B's status will flip the unready by itself
    Note: It seems like the Group Leader needs to be on Solaris game mode screens as it did not happen when the leader was in the MWO home menu



    Patch Files (Direct Download)

    To make the patching process easier for players with limited download caps, we'll be providing direct download links for the patch file(s) that comprise this patch. This will allow you to download the patch file(s) elsewhere, for manual injection into the MWO patcher through a Patch Cache folder.
    Aside from allowing you to download the patch file(s) elsewhere, on another connection, there are no additional benefits to performing the patch this way; the patching process itself will be the same.
    This direct patch download process will only work for players running the standalone client. It does not apply to players running MWO through Steam.


    How to use these patch files
    • Download the above file(s)
    • For sake of ease we recommend creating a dedicated folder for the patch file(s), such as 'MWO Patch Cache'
    • You do not need to unzip or unpack the patch file(s)
    • Launch the MWO Portal
    • Select the three horizontal lines in the top left of the Portal Window
    • Choose the 'Specify Patch File Cache' option
    • In the field that appears, paste or enter the location in which you saved the patch file(s) and hit OK
    • For example, C:\Users\<username>\Documents\MWO Patch Cache
    • Click the blue Patch button
    • The launcher will now check the Patch Cache folder you defined. If it locates the required patch files, it will unpack and use those files to apply the patch.
    • Once the patch is complete, launch the game


    #2 FupDup

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:45 AM

    It's nice that you gave the WHM-IIC some compensation quirks for its size being increased, but agility would have been more preferable to a tiny amount of armor. This mech will never be a firepower platform like the MCII or KDK. It is closer to a heavy mech than a proper assault. Stop treating it like an 80-ton MCII.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:48 AM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

    It's nice that you gave the WHM-IIC some compensation quirks for its size being increased, but agility would have been more preferable to a tiny amount of armor. This mech will never be a firepower platform like the MCII or KDK. It is closer to a heavy mech than a proper assault. Stop treating it like an 80-ton MCII.

    Agreed.

    In regards to TAG and LRM:

    Pulling the TAG function for team only consideration defeats purpose where you want lrm to move to the front.
    If it does nothing for the TAG user, less people will mount it.
    Defeats YOUR PURPOSE OF MAKING IT TEAM MULTIPLIER.
    Only purpose is to break ECM Jesus masking.


    Here's an Idea!
    Fix ECM back to Source rules.
    Get rid of Free C3 Lock.
    Stop with the Band Aids.

    Edited by HammerMaster, 16 March 2019 - 12:23 PM.


    #4 Steve Pryde

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:50 AM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

    It's nice that you gave the WHM-IIC some compensation quirks for its size being increased, but agility would have been more preferable to a tiny amount of armor. This mech will never be a firepower platform like the MCII or KDK. It is closer to a heavy mech than a proper assault. Stop treating it like an 80-ton MCII.

    Exactly this. Better agility helps a mech way more to survive than tiny amount of armor quirks.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:56 AM

    If you're giving the WHM IIC crap agility, you should list its nerfed baseline agility stats as red quirks so people know what they're getting into.

    Also I thought we were gonna be moving away from crap agility and mobility? Two releases in a row are gonna be mechs with crap mobility. Mechs that are sluggish are not fun to play.

    Also, we told you, NOOOO LRM VELOCITY BUFFS.

    Edited by NUMBERZero1032, 16 March 2019 - 11:56 AM.


    #6 FupDup

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:59 AM

    View PostNUMBERZero1032, on 16 March 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:

    If you're giving the WHM IIC crap agility, you should list its nerfed baseline agility stats as red quirks so people know what they're getting into.

    Also I thought we were gonna be moving away from crap agility and mobility? Two releases in a row are gonna be mechs with crap mobility. Mechs that are sluggish are not fun to play.

    Also, we told you, NOOOO LRM VELOCITY BUFFS.

    The main problem is that the crap mobility doesn't come with some kind of huge advantage to offset it. The MCII for example at least has very high firepower mounted high up on its chassis to compensate for handling like a whale, and even that mech still gets 85 degrees of torso twist instead of only 75 degrees like the WHM-IIC somehow got.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:59 AM

    Warhammer IIC quirks:
    PGI: "We changed stuff to re-evaluate the mech. See the complete list on the PDF."
    PDF: "Lets see we've got all these mechs and, what's what? Warhammer IIC? Uh....umm....no, sorry, got nada here."

    #8 FupDup

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:00 PM

    View PostKoniving, on 16 March 2019 - 11:59 AM, said:

    Warhammer IIC quirks:
    PGI: "We changed stuff to re-evaluate the mech. See the complete list on the PDF."
    PDF: "Lets see we've got all these mechs and, what's what? Warhammer IIC? Uh....umm....no, sorry, got nada here."

    The WHM-IIC quirks are at the far bottom of the list. They're not very impressive though.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:02 PM

    View PostNUMBERZero1032, on 16 March 2019 - 11:56 AM, said:


    Also, we told you, NOOOO LRM VELOCITY BUFFS.


    And there were none. (Just read the whole thing and did a quick jump for key words such as velocity and speed)
    They didn't change LRM speed. Just the path.

    They buffed ATM velocity.

    (See below.)

    Edited by Koniving, 16 March 2019 - 01:57 PM.


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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:03 PM

    Nice to see patch notes. I hope tag doesn't become useless compared to bap and clan active probes. Maybe have the tag buff last a second or so after hitting the mech instead of instant? Just the risk of facing an enemy vs benefit seems off.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:04 PM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

    The WHM-IIC quirks are at the far bottom of the list. They're not very impressive though.

    ...There's a page after it appears the list has completely ended. 7.7;
    and had to zoom in to 260% to be able to read it.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:05 PM

    View PostKoniving, on 16 March 2019 - 12:02 PM, said:


    And there were none. (Just read the whole thing and did a quick jump for key words such as velocity and speed)
    They didn't change LRM speed. Just the path.

    They buffed ATM velocity.

    Bruh:

    View PostInnerSphereNews, on 16 March 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:


    LRM Weapon Changes:


    LRM 5:

    • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 4.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 3.7 (from 4.55)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 5 (from 4)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 10
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 4.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 3.7 from (4.55)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty increased to 4 (from 3)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 15
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.7 (from 5.2)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • LRM 20
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.7 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.7 (from 5.2)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4
    • Clan LRM 5
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 4.05 (4.55)
      • Heat increased to 2.4 (from 2.25)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 5 (from 4)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • Clan LRM 10
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 5.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (from 4.55)
      • Heat increased to 4 (from 3.7)
      • Minimum Heat Penalty Increased to 4 (from 3)
    • Clan LRM 15
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 6.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (5.55)
      • Heat increased to 5 (from 4.65)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)
    • Clan LRM 20
      • Velocity increased to 210 (from 190)
      • Indirect Spread set to 6.05 (New)
      • LOS Spread set to 5.05 (from 5.55)
      • Heat increased to 6 (from 5.6)
      • Heat Penalty increased to 3.4 (from 2.8)


    #13 Koniving

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:08 PM

    And seeing the Warhammer IIC size change... guess they start with the mechs small and gradually increase the size until it feels good.

    Least the "zomg they forgot how to volume scale" crowd might stop fussing for five minutes.

    Now we just need to appease the "Zomg the Corsair is the fattest mech evah!" crowd -- because despite making comparisons of the worst-possible angle that PGI could have taken for the mechlab pictures against other mechs, showing its hardly thicker than a Zeus's torsos... we still have the DOA crowd up in arms.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:09 PM

    View PostKoniving, on 16 March 2019 - 12:08 PM, said:

    Now we just need to appease the "Zomg the Corsair is the fattest mech evah!" crowd -- because despite making comparisons of the worst-possible angle that PGI could have taken for the mechlab pictures against other mechs, showing its hardly thicker than a Zeus's torsos... we still have the DOA crowd up in arms.

    Regardless of scaling, the Corsair has pretty awful hardpoint synergy across almost all variants.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:10 PM

    Ha that's kind of hilarious; I didn't think it was possible for the WHIIC to suck anymore than it does.

    #16 FupDup

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:11 PM

    View PostJackal Noble, on 16 March 2019 - 12:10 PM, said:

    Ha that's kind of hilarious; I didn't think it was possible for the WHIIC to suck anymore than it does.

    Our Balancing Overlord™ would interpret that as a challenge.

    #17 Koniving

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:13 PM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 12:05 PM, said:

    Bruh:

    Today is not my day. The only velocity entry that came up when I hit CTRL F and typed it was ATM and the guy saying no velocity buffs.
    As for speed, got lock speed.
    (and clearly I skimmed over the velocity part of the LRM things and only looked at spread; velocity is pretty meaningless when considering all the numbers change once in game after quirks.)

    Posted Image
    Still not as fast as these...and we just dodged them.

    Edited by Koniving, 16 March 2019 - 12:20 PM.


    #18 dwwolf

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:13 PM

    What happens if an artemis IV equiped LRM fires at a NARC'd target?

    #19 Koniving

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:14 PM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

    Regardless of scaling, the Corsair has pretty awful hardpoint synergy across almost all variants.

    True.

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    Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:27 PM

    View PostFupDup, on 16 March 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

    Regardless of scaling, the Corsair has pretty awful hardpoint synergy across almost all variants.


    That's probably intentional to reflect it being a 'Frankenmech'.

    Is there any further information on what the retrofit's will entail? I didn't see those mech's listed on the PDF of changes posted.





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