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[Temporary Axis]

Escef, on 04 April 2019 - 11:13 PM, said:

Which should not have been a surprise, since it was my regular starting time. Imagine that.

At no point did I indicate surprise.

What was detailed was a factual sequence of events.

Your lack of rebuttable to those events was being commented on by others.

You have chosen to try and avoid talking about those comments for what they feel is a lack of ability to do so.

Would you like more assistance in understanding context and following a discussion or are the sign posts big enough now?

Edited by Temporary Axis, 06 April 2019 - 12:27 AM.

[Dogstar]

Novakaine, on 29 March 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

Yup just like ya bunch of laser toads.

Brilliant!

Now to make a 'Clan Laser Toad' banner!

Et voila!

Edited by Dogstar, 06 April 2019 - 01:16 AM.

[K O Z A K]

Dogstar, on 06 April 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

Brilliant!

Now to make a 'Clan Laser Toad' banner!

Et voila!

Lol, I've been banned for saying lurmtard before, but this....somehow this is ok?

[Escef]

Temporary Axis, on 06 April 2019 - 12:27 AM, said:

At no point did I indicate surprise.

What was detailed was a factual sequence of events.

And your phrasing said that I then "decided" to start my stream... I decided to start my stream at that time months beforehand, it's called a schedule. Your phrasing is suspect. The fact that you don't recognize that might mean that you genuinely do not realize when you use white nationalist jargon.

Temporary Axis, on 06 April 2019 - 12:27 AM, said:

Your lack of rebuttable to those events was being commented on by others.

You have chosen to try and avoid talking about those comments for what they feel is a lack of ability to do so.

Would you like more assistance in understanding context and following a discussion or are the sign posts big enough now?

I have spoken my peace on this in another venue. If you care (and I doubt you do) it shouldn't be difficult to find.

[Mole]

Temporary Axis, on 06 April 2019 - 12:23 AM, said:

What more would you like to know?

I'd like to know exactly what buzzword you spat out that made Escef call you a racist. People don't generally call people racist unless they've... you know... said something that sounded kinda racist.

[Novakaine]

Hah that's one thing we got in common Hazelclaw.
I think was the Ta not the To syllable.
And I'm not repeating that one.

Edited by Novakaine, 06 April 2019 - 11:57 AM.

[Horseman]

Hazeclaw, on 06 April 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

Lol, I've been banned for saying lurmtard before, but this....somehow this is ok?

Apparently moderation didn't consider it a violation... for some reason.

Edited by Horseman, 06 April 2019 - 02:17 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Horseman, on 06 April 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

Apparently moderation didn't consider it a violation... for some reason.

As someone who has been banned for using the similar phrase "loret**d" (rather than LRMt**d) it was explained to me when I was banned, that it was because use of that four letter acronym appended to the end there that worked to "normalize a pejorative and its negative connotations to intellectually disabled individuals". And that such "discriminatory" language was a violation of the COC.

So up above, the little frog pewpewpew image is likely to be perfectly acceptable means of attempting to insult. But using the T A R D acronym under any circumstance involving a label, including an attempt to refer to one's self or one's own conduct is discriminatory and a violation of the COC. (For what it's worth, when desiring to casually express an unhealthy focus, perhaps even a retardation of greater understanding as a result of that focus, I now use "hole" as my suffix of choice (e.g. Lorehole, LRMhole, etc). It's obvious association with anatomical slang is apparently not a problem, presumably because it is not "discriminatory")

I'm not kidding about any of the above.

[Escef]

Bud Crue, on 07 April 2019 - 04:45 AM, said:

But using the T A R D acronym under any circumstance involving a label, including an attempt to refer to one's self or one's own conduct is discriminatory and a violation of the COC.

Do you even know what an acronym is? An acronym is a word where every letter stands for another word and is used as a mnemonic (memory aid).

SPORTS in the military (for clearing a jammed rifle, Slap the bottom of the magazine, Pull the charging handle, Observe for ejected brass/round, Release the charging handle, Tap the forward assist, Squeeze the trigger).

Or THAC0 (generally pronounced thah-ko, thay-ko) in 1st and 2nd Editions of AD&D (To Hit Armor Class 0/zero, used to help streamline combat resolution).

What you refer to above is NOT an acronym, it is a shortened version of a derogatory way to refer to people with Down Syndrome (or similar developmental disabilities) used as a suffix to lump people into a group the speaker considers sub-human. The reason why this is banned speech in most venues is because it is dehumanizing not only to whatever group of people you are trying to disparage, but also to the developmentally disabled.

I wager you knew this, but on the off chance you didn't, how did you not? We're living in the future, we have access to the near sum total of human knowledge at our fingertips 24/7.

Edited by Escef, 07 April 2019 - 05:32 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Escef, on 07 April 2019 - 05:31 AM, said:

Do you even know what an acronym is? An acronym is a word where every letter stands for another word and is used as a mnemonic (memory aid).

Yes. But the abbreviation we are speaking of was referred to by the mod who banned me as an "acronym". Should have put it in quotes. Sorry.

[Escef]

Bud Crue, on 07 April 2019 - 05:44 AM, said:

Yes. But the abbreviation we are speaking of was referred to by the mod who banned me as an "acronym". Should have put it in quotes. Sorry.

Fair on that point. Otherwise, however, yeah, societal change happens, keep up or you're gonna be this generations version of the embarrassing grandpa that has no idea how horrified people are at him. (Y'know, the one that gets stuffed in a nursing home and conveniently forgotten about?)

[Alienized]

ppl complain they cant be lazy coward leechers anymore....

[Horseman]

Bud Crue, on 07 April 2019 - 04:45 AM, said:

So up above, the little frog pewpewpew image is likely to be perfectly acceptable means of attempting to insult. But using the T A R D acronym under any circumstance involving a label, including an attempt to refer to one's self or one's own conduct is discriminatory and a violation of the COC. (For what it's worth, when desiring to casually express an unhealthy focus, perhaps even a retardation of greater understanding as a result of that focus, I now use "hole" as my suffix of choice (e.g. Lorehole, LRMhole, etc). It's obvious association with anatomical slang is apparently not a problem, presumably because it is not "discriminatory")

Well, looking at the COC even that is supposed to be technically disallowed... but if someone were to strictly implement the COC, this thread should have been removed upon being posted.

[Bud Crue]

Horseman, on 07 April 2019 - 06:18 AM, said:

Well, looking at the COC even that is supposed to be technically disallowed... but if someone were to strictly implement the COC, this thread should have been removed upon being posted.

Yup.

Frankly, if they strictly enforced the COC, just about any thread with any content of relevance or interest should be banned. I mean "creating a forum thread about an existing topic" is "strictly prohibited", and yet mods will regularly remove or close threads for being necros and instruct folks to start new threads on the same topic. Another one is "communicating non-constructive comments" that is also "strictly prohibited" and yet this whole thread and all those like it arguably fall within that prohibition. Apropos "picking fights" is my favorite "strictly prohibited" act. It's like Really? Have you ever read most forum threads around here?

Oh well, they may ignore all of that but they don't ignore "Publicly posting or sending communications to discuss general moderation rules and guidelines" so, alas, this thread's days (hours) are numbered.

[K O Z A K]

Escef, on 07 April 2019 - 05:49 AM, said:

Fair on that point. Otherwise, however, yeah, societal change happens, keep up or you're gonna be this generations version of the embarrassing grandpa that has no idea how horrified people are at him. (Y'know, the one that gets stuffed in a nursing home and conveniently forgotten about?)

And you think you're somehow immune to that fate?

Better to be horrified of than eat tide pods because societal change happens

[Escef]

Hazeclaw, on 07 April 2019 - 07:00 AM, said:

And you think you're somehow immune to that fate?

Better to be horrified of than eat tide pods because societal change happens

Really? So, you'd rather lynchings happen than some stupid viral stunt that only a total idiot would try?

That's a hell of a value system you got going on there.

[K O Z A K]

....wtf

[Escef]

Hazeclaw, on 07 April 2019 - 08:23 AM, said:

....wtf

Yeah, that was my initial response. There's a world of difference between things like what happened to Emmett Till (racially motivated murder, witnesses jailed to prevent testimony, etc.), and a bunch of idiots eating soap on a dare. Not even comparable.

So, if it came down to it, you'd rather your grandkids be horrified at you condoning brutal murders than soap? I dunno, do you even realize what you're saying? I mean, even as a joke, that's screwed up.

[Y E O N N E]

Escef, on 07 April 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

So, if it came down to it, you'd rather your grandkids be horrified at you condoning brutal murders than soap? I dunno, do you even realize what you're saying? I mean, even as a joke, that's screwed up.

You are completely unhinged with that demonstration of mental gymnastics. The point was that it's better to live with off-color language and toes getting stepped on with a thick skin to deal with it (because trying to parse hurtful references out of language is an impossible fight by the nature of language itself), not be OK with people getting hanged from trees. There is an entire ocean from there to being a racist extremist and you just leapt over it pursuing a poibt you don't actually have.

Also, for some fun ruminating, calling people "stupid" or "idiot" is *exactly* the same as using the R word because they have the same history refering to the same things about the same disadvantaged group of people. Why are we not censured over those? Why is it OK by society at large to call people d*cks, but not p*****s? Are we going to censure the use of "lame" in the near future as it is derogatory to people actually being crippled? Impossible fight indeed, your efforts on this front are complete vanity. Everybody's efforts on this front are.

[justcallme A S H]

Y E O N N E, on 07 April 2019 - 12:01 PM, said:

You are completely unhinged with that demonstration of mental gymnastics.

You just made me picture Escef in a leotard.

Thanks