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#1 razenWing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:33 AM

With MW5 so near release, which will undoubtedly finish off MWO once and for all, I really don't care about new maps or fix lasers or whatever boring stuff that people argue over now a days.

I just want bots.

Basically, I had unofficially quit over the past 3 months because of PGI's refusal to own up to their mistake. Whatever, that's the past.

But recently, my brother started playing, which gave me a reason to connect with him.

Problem is, he is terribad.

Like, he will walk into a wall bad.

And dropping him against live players is just cruel. But have him shoot stationary targets is also quite lame.

So, I remembered that we had fun in coop in MW4. And honestly, for this game, for the hundreds of dollars and over 4k hours that I poured in, to find a chance to connect with my brother whom I haven't talked to in years... I just want one wish.

Have bots like in MW4 where we just go do something silly. They don't even have to be great bots. I am not talking about like Google AlphaGo killer bots. Just like, bots from MW4. I don't care if they run into the walls occasionally or miss 80% of the times. I mean, it's just good no pressure, some resistance environment where we get to hang out and have fun.

With imminent release of MW5, the coding for enemy AI must be done already. So, just port over the architecture and shouldn't be a hard thing to implement.

Hopefully, it's something you guys can do for the sunset community. It would be a nice gesture. Doesn't impact anything else. Don't waste a lot of resources I would imagine.

#2 Jman5

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:44 AM

Isn't that essentially what MW5 is going to be? PvE with co-op. Maybe buy your brother a copy when it comes out.

Edited by Jman5, 03 May 2019 - 08:45 AM.


#3 BoldricKent

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:49 AM

Use lobby. So you can play target...

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:51 AM

I thought we already had bots??

just came back after not playing a while and... lol

Edited by OfficerDingDong, 03 May 2019 - 08:51 AM.


#5 Grus

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:51 AM

Co OP will be in mw5... but porting it over here? Not gonna happen.

#6 razenWing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:52 AM

View PostJman5, on 03 May 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

Isn't that essentially what MW5 is going to be? PvE with co-op. Maybe buy your brother a copy when it comes out.


If MW5 is going to have the 20-30 chasis I purchased (Clans included). Sure. Look, part of the nostalgia for this series for us, is from MW3 where he was little and got to walk around in an annihilator or diashi. We honestly have no connection with Star League or any of the pre clan stuff. MW5 is actually a lot closer to what we both remembered than the upcoming MW5

View PostBoldricKent, on 03 May 2019 - 08:49 AM, said:

Use lobby. So you can play target...


You seem to grossly misinterpret the meaning of "playing together"

What the bullies did you to you is not "playing together"

Edited by razenWing, 03 May 2019 - 08:54 AM.


#7 McGoat

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:53 AM

We have bots, nothing will convince me otherwise.

Just go into any of the queues at any time of day and you'll encounter many of them.

#8 Grus

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:54 AM

View PostMcGoat, on 03 May 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

We have bots, nothing will convince me otherwise.

Just go into any of the queues at any time of day and you'll encounter many of them.


True.

#9 razenWing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:59 AM

View PostMcGoat, on 03 May 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

We have bots, nothing will convince me otherwise.

Just go into any of the queues at any time of day and you'll encounter many of them.


Maybe you are a bot? O_o

Let me give you a test...

Would you save a human from a burning building...

#10 Grus

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:03 AM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:


Maybe you are a bot? O_o

Let me give you a test...

Would you save a human from a burning building...


I can answer that for him.

No

#11 razenWing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:05 AM

View PostGrus, on 03 May 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

I can answer that for him.

No


Only bots answer for one another

#12 OfficerDingDong

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:07 AM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:


Maybe you are a bot? O_o

Let me give you a test...

Would you save a human from a burning building...



are they in there trying to cap in a 100 tonner?

#13 John Bronco

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:52 AM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

With imminent release of MW5, the coding for enemy AI must be done already. So, just port over the architecture and shouldn't be a hard thing to implement.


This statement is wildly false. Even if PGI was good at developing this would be a huge project.

#14 razenWing

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 02:51 PM

View PostBlaizerP, on 03 May 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:


This statement is wildly false. Even if PGI was good at developing this would be a huge project.


i dunno if its true or not, hence... imagined.

though, regardless of whether bots need to be port over, you also would think that PGI already have some sort of "bots" for testing purposes. Why not just release those?

#15 Mystere

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 02:59 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

I just want bots.


Get several new PCs, create the same number of new accounts, learn AI-based command and control, as well as Windows device emulation, download Tensorflow/Keras, and start working. Finally, drop in a private match. Posted Image

Edited by Mystere, 03 May 2019 - 03:01 PM.


#16 Monkey Lover

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:26 PM

They should have added bots years ago when people were ghost dropping in cw.

#17 Monkey Lover

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:31 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:


i dunno if its true or not, hence... imagined.

though, regardless of whether bots need to be port over, you also would think that PGI already have some sort of "bots" for testing purposes. Why not just release those?


We saw pgi bots few years ago when they had some error and loaded into the live server. They just stand there and shot random. There was no ai.

Mw5 ai was most likely programmed by unreal programmers. Sure pgi would tweak this but thete is no way to pull this into crytek.
Thats not even counting they dont own the unreal code.

Saying this crytek does have ai too but they have to program it. At this point mwo is on the way out. It wouldnt be worth the money. Lets hope for ai in mwo2.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 03 May 2019 - 07:35 PM.


#18 Snowhawk

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:05 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 03 May 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

They don't even have to be great bots. I am not talking about like Google AlphaGo killer bots. Just like, bots from MW4. I don't care if they run into the walls occasionally or miss 80% of the times.


Sounds like daily bussines in quick Play or faction Play.... . Posted Image Posted Image

#19 justcallme A S H

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:00 AM

You want BOTS?

Just play Quick Play.

Most of what I see there has gotta be bots these days that how bad many players are in T1 matches.

#20 Weeny Machine

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:12 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 04 May 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

You want BOTS?

Just play Quick Play.

Most of what I see there has gotta be bots these days that how bad many players are in T1 matches.


...or Millenials trying to play the game ;)





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