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#1 Andrew W Wiggins

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:07 PM

Crazy thought, what about give the prime Warhawk the ability to fire 4 ERPPC without ghost heat. It's a 40 pinpoint with with 20 splash. Not that crazy when looking at the crap hard points and low mounts. Granted it might still shut down depending on just how many heat sinks you can boat in it. The Awesome can pull off just about the same thing with triple heavy PPC's.

#2 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:07 PM

No.

#3 Y E O N N E

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:07 PM

noe

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:10 PM

As resident ER-PPC fetishist I can only say :
No .

#5 Vxheous

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:12 PM

This would be so OP....I say yes so I can use it to farm more tears

#6 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 03:00 PM

The Awesome pays for 45pts of PPFLD (at only 2/3 the range) with a 30-ton mounting cost, at least ten fewer sinks, lower top speed, terribad agility, even lower mounts, and hitboxes so wide even Texas thinks it needs to lose a few pounds.

What nerfs are you prepared to accept to the WHK to give it 4xERPPC? Because it would need a few to bring it down to the same level as competing PPC platforms. It's already pretty good where it's at, and precisely nothing at all can presently deliver 40 points of PPFLD, one-click, beyond 800m... so it absolutely would cause a balance shift.

#7 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 03:05 PM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 18 May 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

The Awesome pays for 45pts of PPFLD (at only 2/3 the range) with a 30-ton mounting cost, at least ten fewer sinks, lower top speed, terribad agility, even lower mounts, and hitboxes so wide even Texas thinks it needs to lose a few pounds.

What nerfs are you prepared to accept to the WHK to give it 4xERPPC? Because it would need a few to bring it down to the same level as competing PPC platforms. It's already pretty good where it's at, and precisely nothing at all can presently deliver 40 points of PPFLD, one-click, beyond 800m... so it absolutely would cause a balance shift.

Also the AWS has a 90m deadzone and the WHK gets 10-20 splash damage (depending on hit location) as a cherry on top.

#8 Vxheous

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 07:38 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

Also the AWS has a 90m deadzone and the WHK gets 10-20 splash damage (depending on hit location) as a cherry on top.


It's only 10 splash maximum for 2 ERPPC regardless of hit location

#9 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 07:38 PM

View PostVxheous, on 18 May 2019 - 07:38 PM, said:

It's only 10 splash maximum for 2 ERPPC regardless of hit location

The WHK has 4 ERPPCs.

#10 Vxheous

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 07:46 PM

View PostFupDup, on 18 May 2019 - 07:38 PM, said:

The WHK has 4 ERPPCs.


Yeah, but your post didn't actually specify firing all 4, but I get what you're saying

#11 FupDup

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 07:48 PM

View PostVxheous, on 18 May 2019 - 07:46 PM, said:

Yeah, but your post didn't actually specify firing all 4, but I get what you're saying

I thought it was implied because this thread has the particular subject of giving the WHK a quirk to allow it to fire all 4 at once.

#12 justcallme A S H

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:26 PM

The "suggestions" that come through the forum never fail to make me PMSL

#13 ObeyTheLion

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 01:10 AM

Because it would be completely balanced to deal 40 dmg at almost a kilometer away, stripping some enemy mechs from half of their armor before the fight even begins

Also
Just imagine what this would do to FP

o7

Edited by ObeyTheLion, 19 May 2019 - 05:00 AM.


#14 RJF Volkodav

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 01:45 AM

Yes please. Also, remove JJ shaking and let us play poptart, remove G+PPC linking for GH, get back mobility and it would be such a great game.
But none of this happens as it would be seas of tears covering brown sea Posted Image .

Edited by RJF Volkodav, 19 May 2019 - 01:46 AM.


#15 LordNothing

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:54 AM

you can already sustain a ppc barrage pretty well on most warhawks. that's firing a shot every second continuously. you cant really alpha, but hit detection is wonky when you alpha ppcs and you are better off without it.

#16 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:06 AM

Heh ... people are blowing a blood vessel over waa waa scary 40 pinpoint alpha while we already got 70-90 laservomit+gauss alphas and nobody bats an eye ...

#17 ImperialKnight

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:27 AM

people really need to stop comparing PPFLD weapons with DoT ones

#18 justcallme A S H

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:40 AM

View PostPhoenixFire55, on 19 May 2019 - 04:06 AM, said:

Heh ... people are blowing a blood vessel over waa waa scary 40 pinpoint alpha while we already got 70-90 laservomit+gauss alphas and nobody bats an eye ...


Only issue being they aren't doing them 900m and also without 28cDHS on a WHK prime which means with a HSL+2 quirk you could fire that indefinitely.

I know you know that's stupid Posted Image

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:46 AM

View PostAndrew W Wiggins, on 18 May 2019 - 02:07 PM, said:

Crazy thought, what about give the prime Warhawk the ability to fire 4 ERPPC without ghost heat. It's a 40 pinpoint with with 20 splash. Not that crazy when looking at the crap hard points and low mounts. Granted it might still shut down depending on just how many heat sinks you can boat in it. The Awesome can pull off just about the same thing with triple heavy PPC's.

you actually used to be able fire quad PPC on the warhawk C (pretty close stats to the Prime) it was way overpowered. you could 1 shot a light mech with it

#20 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:38 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 19 May 2019 - 04:40 AM, said:

Only issue being they aren't doing them 900m and also without 28cDHS on a WHK prime which means with a HSL+2 quirk you could fire that indefinitely.

I know you know that's stupid Posted Image

Oh please ... how often do you even fight at 900m range in this game? ... There is no pinpoint at that range either, since you gotta lead the target meaning your left and right arm won't hit the same thing. Unless of course you want to balance the game around two idiots standing 1km away from each other perfectly still in the open ... And indefinite fire is utter BS as well, you can be heat neutral with two cERPPCs in this game, but you simply can't with 4.

Edited by PhoenixFire55, 19 May 2019 - 05:39 AM.






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