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[Tarl Cabot]

I could see the OP viewpoint if the other side was constantly being made up of units of 6+ players. But even Solo Queue will yield similar results when one side coordinates/operates at least as an adhoc unit instead of 12 "civilians" thrown together and they never played as team or family in any sort of game or sport, while actually bringing appropriate hardware to the game.

OP, that is the biggest difference in most of the drops.. first step is what you and the team bring to the drop begins in the mechlab, followed a majority of the player's attitude and willingness to work together. Whether a group of players form up prior to the drop or are able to bring it together on that drop, TEAMWORK is OP. The MM cannot fix the players' ability or inability to work coordinate and work together.

It may have helped some if PGI had actually added staging areas which would allow players to join up before dropping if they were not in the same units, but hell, we didn't get in-game VOIP until early 2015, a few months after CW (Community Warfare > FW > FP) went live. Too little, too late now for this minimum viable product. /shrugs.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 19 April 2020 - 09:03 AM.

[Sniper09121986]

justcallme A S H, on 18 April 2020 - 04:37 PM, said:

You actually believe that Long Tom would improve the game?

Long Tom was the most fun I ever had in FW. So yes, for me it is probably the only thing that would improve FW at this point (the point in question being QP with respawns and no matchmaker).

[justcallme A S H]

So the most "enjoyable" part of Faction Play for you was the thing that ruined it for 10,000+ people and 100s of units.


And that right there is what is wrong with MWO and why PGI could never get anywhere.

[Sniper09121986]

justcallme A S H, on 19 April 2020 - 01:07 PM, said:

So the most "enjoyable" part of Faction Play for you was the thing that ruined it for 10,000+ people and 100s of units.


And that right there is what is wrong with MWO and why PGI could never get anywhere.

Exactly! With Long Tom FP accidentally transformed into what it was supposed to be - a continuous warfare simulation for BT fans. But the premades squealed about not being able to farm pugs and MC anymore, so it devolved back into the state of QP with no matchmaker.

[-Mean Machine Angel-]

^^^ What?
So you were around for LT,and that's what you think? People were pissed off about losing mechs from nukes without even getting to fight.And if by premades you mean UNITS that like to play together as a UNIT in a TEAM mode,they weren't complaining about your imagined farming and MC hunting..it was the LT ruining the game.Were you really here for it or are you wanting to look clued up?

[Sniper09121986]

Mean Machine Angel x, on 20 April 2020 - 03:44 AM, said:

^^^ What?
So you were around for LT,and that's what you think? People were pissed off about losing mechs from nukes without even getting to fight.And if by premades you mean UNITS that like to play together as a UNIT in a TEAM mode,they weren't complaining about your imagined farming and MC hunting..it was the LT ruining the game.Were you really here for it or are you wanting to look clued up?

FP is not a team mode. Group queue is. Go there and stay there.

[B0oN]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is team mode. Group queue is for shenanigans and people with time handicaps.

Fixed that for you ...

[Sniper09121986]

B0oN, on 20 April 2020 - 04:29 AM, said:

Fixed that for you ...

Well, time handicap is probably my situation since I can only play a couple of hours a day, or even less. As for shenanigans, not sure what you mean by that, seeing how the absolute biggest shenanigans in the history of this game took place in FP

[cougurt]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is not a team mode. Group queue is. Go there and stay there.

wtf are you talking about?

[justcallme A S H]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is not a team mode. Group queue is. Go there and stay there.

Prove it.

All of the documentation and even PGI's own WARNING / INFORMATION Screen...

Clearly state that it is for highly organised groups first and foremost.


Clueless is as clueless does.

[Sniper09121986]

justcallme A S H, on 20 April 2020 - 04:59 AM, said:

Prove it.

All of the documentation and even PGI's own WARNING / INFORMATION Screen...

Clearly state that it is for highly organised groups first and foremost.


Clueless is as clueless does.

From your own post a while ago...



"Has emphasis on" ≠ "is exclusively for". Now back to reading class with you.

[cougurt]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is not a team mode. Group queue is. Go there and stay there.

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 05:17 AM, said:

you might want to dust off the ol' brain and give that another try.

[Sniper09121986]

cougurt, on 20 April 2020 - 05:42 AM, said:

you might want to dust off the ol' brain and give that another try.

After you both.

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 05:17 AM, said:

"Has emphasis on" ≠ "is exclusively for". Now back to reading class with you.

[cougurt]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 05:48 AM, said:

After you both.

okay, just go ahead and tell me how you can read this:

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 05:17 AM, said:

and come to this conclusion:

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is not a team mode.

[Serial Number]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 04:16 AM, said:

FP is not a team mode. Group queue is. Go there and stay there.

I'm honestly surprised you guys keep talking to him lol. With this 1 sentence he proved he's totally clueless and not worth any attention nor replying to his dumb posts anymore

[Sniper09121986]

cougurt, on 20 April 2020 - 05:59 AM, said:

okay, just go ahead and tell me how you can read this:


and come to this conclusion:

FP has been intended as a BT warfare simulation for everyone and not just solo farmers. But farmers being what they are, all solos left. The warning is simply acknowledging the fact of that takeover while nominally declaring the solos' nominal right to participate in FW and get chewed up by solo farmers who, in a reasonable world, would stay in group or comp queues instead of rolling over people who dare to play FP the way it was intended - as a BT warfare simulation. Oh well, mission accomplished. No solos in FP. You can see in Steamcharts how well that went.

[John Bronco]

Sniper09121986, on 20 April 2020 - 06:14 AM, said:

FP has been intended as a BT warfare simulation for everyone and not just solo farmers. But farmers being what they are, all solos left. The warning is simply acknowledging the fact of that takeover while nominally declaring the solos' nominal right to participate in FW and get chewed up by solo farmers who, in a reasonable world, would stay in group or comp queues instead of rolling over people who dare to play FP the way it was intended - as a BT warfare simulation. Oh well, mission accomplished. No solos in FP. You can see in Steamcharts how well that went.

[Sniper09121986]

BlaizerP, on 20 April 2020 - 06:25 AM, said:

My point exactly. The game is not nearly as fun anymore as its salt mine forums.

[K O Z A K]

this guy has to be trolling, like literally everything he says is the opposite of how it is and was, either trolling or has not actually ever played FP

[Sniper09121986]

Hazeclaw, on 20 April 2020 - 08:09 AM, said:

this guy has to be trolling, like literally everything he says is the opposite of how it is and was, either trolling or has not actually ever played FP

Well, not everything, but the most amazing is the fact that the fish bites. Every single time for over a month now. The game itself is as stale as the last year, but the forum is the gift that keeps on giving literally no matter what I say here.