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#1 Arugela

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 04:47 AM

https://mwo.smurfy-n...ea728817ae8f36f

Does anyone run this? MRM 80 for 120 damage in a light. These new weapons really allow some interesting builds. Or does this do up to 240 damage?! 8)

Or do MRM only do normal damage like lrm?

Edited by Arugela, 20 April 2020 - 04:50 AM.


#2 Aidan Crenshaw

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 04:56 AM

MRM do 1 DMG per missile. Now please stop butchering innocent mechs.
Your build isn't even viable.

Edited by Aidan Crenshaw, 20 April 2020 - 04:57 AM.


#3 Arugela

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 05:28 AM

How isn't it viable? It's only problem is low heat dissipation. It's still a light with 80 damage alpha.

Oh, I forgot about the heat sink minimum.

Looks like the only one that could do it is the panther. And it doesn't have the slots for it. The Raven- 3L actually has the slots for it and stealth, but is just short on tonnage. It could probably do MRM 60 though.

Edited by Arugela, 20 April 2020 - 05:56 AM.


#4 Biomechtric

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 05:43 AM

View PostArugela, on 20 April 2020 - 05:28 AM, said:

How isn't it viable? It's only problem is low heat dissipation. It's still a light with 80 damage alpha.

Oh, I forgot about the heat sink minimum.

How is it not viable? You really need to ask this?

Ok, you asked... This build is 100% not viable in MWO for these reasons.
Not enough ammo, 15 shots is nowhere near enough for a match, you will need at the very minimum 30 shots but this, as no back up weapons fitted will need more.
The engine is way too small, this build is slower than mos would have as a minimum for assault mechs. The Jenner is a VERY large light mech & moving at this speed = very quick death.
& here is the biggest reason it's not viable.. You only have 6 heatsinks in that tiny engine so you would need to install another 4 in the mech, you simply CAN NOT DROP WITH THIS BUILD. At least you noticed this.
Sorry if you think I am being an ***, you asked & I provided the answers with no bollox included.

#5 Arugela

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 05:57 AM

The people in this game community need to learn to calm down...

https://mwo.smurfy-n...d7ee547cc2aca5b

Here is a viable build since you are so enraged by this.

We need a 39 ton light mech designed solely to boat mrm 80. Possibly with stealth! 8D

Maybe a new urby variant with extra tonnage. Urby Maximum! The R2-D2 of missile boats. His head could be covered in nothing but missile hardpoints. Or his body! I think it would need to be MRM60 with stealth or MRM80 with no stealth.

BTW, it wouldn't need as much ammo as the point is to get in the back and kill from the weak points! 8)

Better: https://mwo.smurfy-n...590095a6e2d7833

Assassin at 40 tons can boat a cloaked mrm60. Not sure if a lack of armor points kills stealth though. Haven't used it personally. If not some half tone ammo can be added to get a few points of armor on the build. 8)

And here is a jump jet raven just to be extra special: https://mwo.smurfy-n...dc01d4b3fe1a080

And one with lasers: https://mwo.smurfy-n...f23e81eccbbbcb6

Edited by Arugela, 20 April 2020 - 06:31 AM.


#6 Aidan Crenshaw

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 06:31 AM

is there some "come up with the dumbest mechbuild"-challenge up somewhere on Reddit or what? ^^

#7 Biomechtric

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 07:08 AM

View PostArugela, on 20 April 2020 - 05:57 AM, said:

The people in this game community need to learn to calm down...

https://mwo.smurfy-n...d7ee547cc2aca5b

Here is a viable build since you are so enraged by this.

We need a 39 ton light mech designed solely to boat mrm 80. Possibly with stealth! 8D

Maybe a new urby variant with extra tonnage. Urby Maximum! The R2-D2 of missile boats. His head could be covered in nothing but missile hardpoints. Or his body! I think it would need to be MRM60 with stealth or MRM80 with no stealth.

BTW, it wouldn't need as much ammo as the point is to get in the back and kill from the weak points! 8)

Better: https://mwo.smurfy-n...590095a6e2d7833

Assassin at 40 tons can boat a cloaked mrm60. Not sure if a lack of armor points kills stealth though. Haven't used it personally. If not some half tone ammo can be added to get a few points of armor on the build. 8)

And here is a jump jet raven just to be extra special: https://mwo.smurfy-n...dc01d4b3fe1a080

And one with lasers: https://mwo.smurfy-n...f23e81eccbbbcb6

I am perfectly calm & in no way enraged. As I said before, you asked for feedback, I provided it, honestly & direct to the point, if you can't handle the criticism then don't ask.

None of your builds are viable, sorry but that's just the way it is. You can not expect to be able to 'get in the back' every time, in fact it will probably only be less than 10% of the time so I ask you what now with your extremely low ammo amounts? You said this before regarding your Kodiak & that's even worse, you are planning on taking 100 tons off the front line to try & get behind the enemy all the while not shooting as you don't have enough ammo, ever heard of armour sharing? it really is a thing, ask the top level players if you don't believe this 98% percentile player.
I'm in no way saying to only run meta builds or to not experiment but to ask for feedback, not take any of it on board & to then imply those that try to help are needing to calm down even after they have stated they intend no ill feelings, Wow!, just wow......

#8 Gagis

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 07:45 AM

That viable build doesn't have any ammo in it.

Just please at least even try to play the game a bit first.

#9 Arugela

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 08:11 AM

View PostAidan Crenshaw, on 20 April 2020 - 06:31 AM, said:

is there some "come up with the dumbest mechbuild"-challenge up somewhere on Reddit or what? ^^


No, it's default on the forum.

#10 Sniper09121986

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 08:24 AM

OP, there is simply no way to build a Jenner (or Panther for that matter) with MRM that would be better than the same mech with SRM. And there is little chance of doing it on a Raven either (even a Clan assault will twist off the damage and slap you before your MRM finishes p1ssing through the missile tubes that it has). Even 50-ton mechs have some trouble fitting an MRM-30, and the lower calibres are hardly worth their tonnage at all. Just try something else.

#11 Arugela

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 11:09 AM

Here is an MRM 40 version of the assassination. I guess this is more doable.


https://mwo.smurfy-n...8c5afa2259a302a

Deep sniper build.

Edited by Arugela, 20 April 2020 - 11:09 AM.


#12 letir

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Posted 20 April 2020 - 11:27 AM

Guys, don't feed the troll. Let him under the bridge.

#13 Horseman

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Posted 22 April 2020 - 03:13 PM

View PostArugela, on 20 April 2020 - 05:28 AM, said:

How isn't it viable? It's only problem is low heat dissipation. It's still a light with 80 damage alpha.
It isn't viable because you took a light mech and expect it to survive when limited to assault mech speeds

View PostArugela, on 20 April 2020 - 05:57 AM, said:

The people in this game community need to learn to calm down...
And you need to learn a bit about effective builds in this game, because right now the ones you're tossing around are nonsensical from gameplay perspective.
Start by getting familiar with https://grimmechs.isengrim.org/

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Nonviable due to paper-thin armor.

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We need a 39 ton light mech designed solely to boat mrm 80. Possibly with stealth! 8D
We don't. There are, however, 45 tonners that are more or less designed for MRM40 - that's the Vindicator in ccase you were wondering.

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Maybe a new urby variant with extra tonnage.
We have a MRM40 urbie. Fits only 2-2.5 tons of ammo - or about half of what you'd realistically need for a match, though.

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BTW, it wouldn't need as much ammo as the point is to get in the back and kill from the weak points! 8)
You're not doing that even semi-reliably unless your build runs 100+ kph, and in that case you might as well take an Arctic Wolf and do it properly. If you want MRM60 with stealth, Griffin 2N can just about do it (only 3 tons of ammo is kinda terrible though) while actually having armor.

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Not sure if a lack of armor points kills stealth though.
On a build with explosive ammo and IS XL? Yes, it does. Stealth armor only works on people terminally dependent on their sensors, a simple look using Mk I Eyeball will tell them there's a mech there.

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And here is a jump jet raven just to be extra special: https://mwo.smurfy-n...dc01d4b3fe1a080
Nonviable. You're wasting tonnage (2xMRM20 is 14 tons, MRM40 is 12 tons), insufficient leg armor (people will aim for the legs, since you're a light) and excessive number of jump jets.
A more reasonable take: https://mwo.smurfy-n...915468831a319ad

#14 Nix Axer

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 08:19 AM

View PostArugela, on 20 April 2020 - 04:47 AM, said:



This is impossible config

#15 Squiggy McPew

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 05:43 AM

If you want to do an mrm light then use the missile urbie with mrm40 and 3 tons ammo. With magazine skills thats 1200 missiles so more than plenty though I have ran out a few times over really long matches. A variation is 2 mrm10 and a snub ppc.

#16 Galahad2030

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 07:04 AM

post a video proof that it works and we can talk. building a mech is one thing, operational viability is another.

#17 VonBruinwald

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 03:35 PM

View PostGalahad2030, on 25 October 2020 - 07:04 AM, said:

post a video proof that it works and we can talk. building a mech is one thing, operational viability is another.


Given recently someone posted a video of a Cyclops with ATMs and MRMs an MRM80 Jenner isn't impossible, just not legal.

#18 Galahad2030

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 04:05 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 25 October 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:


Given recently someone posted a video of a Cyclops with ATMs and MRMs an MRM80 Jenner isn't impossible, just not legal.


That is not a video of a 2xMRM40 (or other configuration) Jenner in operation successfully contributing to a battle.





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