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#1 Davegt27

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 03:35 PM

I was trained by the USAF and my retirement order for pay will say 40 years
trust me I know what try hard is


so what is sportsmanship

https://www.merriam-...y/sportsmanship




Definition of sportsmanship



: conduct (such as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing) becoming to one participating in a sport

sportsmanship is how you conduct yourself
old people would say have a little class

when you type GG or GG close at the end of a match when it was OBVIOUSLY not a good game or even close

is poor sportsmanship
its a back handed insult its a bald face lie
and that is way a lot of people dont like it

saying man we wrecked you lol
that would be more acceptable because it would not be a lie

My last trip to Iraq I had to pull aside some of the young troops and
explain what the golden rule is they had never heard of it

so I am doing something similar hear
I am not trying to pick a fight

HTHs

#2 VonBruinwald

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 03:53 PM

Most people don't understand how etiquette works:

TFTM = Thanks for the match.
GG = Good game.

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If you won and you're the first to comment on the match:
Use TFTM - saying GG is basically saying "I had a good time beating you" and disregards the opponents feelings about the match be they positive or negative. TFTM is neutral.

If you lost and you're the first to comment on the match:
Feel free to say GG - Even though you lost you can still say if you enjoyed the match. If you didn't enjoy it, at least TFTM/ acknowledge their win, it shows sportsmanship.

If you won and you're the second to comment on the match:
If they say GG feel free to GG back, if not saying TFTM is appropriate. If your opponent hasn't acknowledged enjoying the match it's just rude to admit you enjoyed it to their detriment.

If you lost and you're the second to comment on the match:
It's your choice, if you enjoyed the game you can GG, if you didn't TFTM is appropriate.

Edited by VonBruinwald, 27 April 2020 - 03:54 PM.


#3 Faek

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 04:12 PM

gg

What if i genuinely thought each game was good? Rare is the match that I didn't think was good in parts.

Real life sports still say good game and shake hands at the end. Think of it like that if it helps you.

#4 FupDup

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 04:18 PM

The analogy I use it to compare it to saying "Good shot" while at the shooting range or whatever. The direct, literal interpretation is that you're complimenting someone's marksmanship. However, if your buddy completely misses the paper target, and you say "Good shot" to your buddy, then your buddy is probably gonna assume you're being sarcastic and saying his marksmanship was actually not good at all. It's definitely not impossible that you genuinely think his complete miss of the target was in fact skilled marksmanship, but from his perspective he's probably not gonna see it that way.

Context matters.

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 04:37 PM

I'd laugh at this topic but eh. You want sportsmanship in a video game then play a sports video game. You won't find any in an online shooter or any other competitive non sports video game. Go find pve and single player games if you can't handle other real players.

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 05:34 PM

I mostly type GG in Team Chat and never in All Chat. I'd rather have assault pilots who will fire their weapons instead. Etiquette be damned. But wait, 4-man groups against the passive assaults will be a treat and a treasure trove of data for PGI to analyse, yes? Posted Image

Edited by FRAGTAST1C, 27 April 2020 - 05:44 PM.


#7 Hellbringer

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 05:41 PM

why bother saying anything, who gives a blood asp.

Good game? hardly, maybe 1 game out of 20-30 are actually good. I.e. not complete stomps, objectives rushed, decent trades, etc.

people throw these terms around so much its meaingless. just like o7. who the hell are you saluting? some fat middle aged guy with cheetos dust on his chin? cares.

#8 Ignatius Audene

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:46 PM

GG is not ggclose

One handshake other pure troll (but hey its internet)

If u cant accept or offer an handshake after a match u should read your own rules again.

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 27 April 2020 - 10:48 PM.


#9 Vellron2005

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Posted 27 April 2020 - 11:32 PM

My preferred style is determined by the score:

If score is my team wins vs less than half my team dead (a.k.a. we wrecked them) - its "TFP" (thanks for playing)

if score is my team wins vs. more than half my team dead - its classic "gg"

If score is close to all my team AND enemy team dead, or very close in resources or time on the clock, regardless of win or lose - its ggclose (so only used when the game is close or tied, never as an insult)

If my team got wrecked - it's "WP" (Well played)

If my team lost, but killed more than half of the enemy team - classic "gg".

Simple, respectful, logical.

Edited by Vellron2005, 27 April 2020 - 11:33 PM.


#10 Nearly Dead

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 03:27 AM

Most things in game or life can be taken as sincere or sarcasm. Fortunately most of us don't know where the rest of us live.

#11 Sjorpha

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 03:37 AM

For "ggclose" I can see the point maybe, but "gg" by itself is just a handshake for most people so you can't read anything into it.

#12 RickySpanish

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 06:14 AM

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#13 GlizzyGobbler98

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 08:10 AM

I type GG in all chat after every kill

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Posted 28 April 2020 - 11:38 AM

I'll "gg" if I'm on the losing team regardless of score. Mostly because I'm trying to be a good sport, partly to troll my own team if they did poorly Posted Image

12-7 or closer gets a gg from me by default; otherwise gj in teamchat. Seems to be the most courteous way imo.

Capital GG means I'm dumb and forgot caps lock since that's still my voip hotkey!

#15 LordNothing

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 02:35 AM

i always consider gg good sportsmanship. no point in overthinking it.

Edited by LordNothing, 29 April 2020 - 02:40 AM.


#16 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 07:47 AM

hmm

Your team got shafted "gg" = ironic remark
Actual close and good game "gg"
Enemy team got shafted "gg" = ironic remark

If you playing a rompy stompy robot video game on the the internet... might not wanna take everything literally.

#17 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 07:51 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 27 April 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

My last trip to Iraq I had to pull aside some of the young troops and
explain what the golden rule is they had never heard of it

so I am doing something similar hear
I am not trying to pick a fight


Just curious, did you and your boys rekt some iraqi sniper and the boiis threw a "ggclose gitgud" at the corpse? Found any Antrax?
This is an online video game not a warzone.

Beside, you don't need to educate the playerbase about proper sportmannship after a game.
Start to understand what folks mean with "gg" and you'll see that you see a problem where there is none.
"gg" isn't a backhand slap meant to insult you (mostly, exceptions excluded).

#18 Brain Cancer

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 08:30 AM

View PostB L O O D W I T C H, on 29 April 2020 - 07:51 AM, said:

"gg" isn't a backhand slap meant to insult you (mostly, exceptions excluded).


And yet, it so obviously, frequently gets used that way.

Take a stream I was watching last night.

The tradtion was "GG" after every kill, especially if the target died miserably. Not so much insult as fishing for provocation.

#19 nuttyrat

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 09:04 AM

I was taught from a young age that saying Good Game is the way you do it, with a handshake, after a game. I think that salt can sometimes get the better of us, but generally speaking i try to say gg even when getting stomped. At the end of the day, it was a game and everyone played to their ability ... even if the ability was not good for the moment.

I'm guilty of not doing this sometimes, however.

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Posted 29 April 2020 - 10:06 AM

View PostVxheous, on 29 April 2020 - 09:36 AM, said:

A little trash talk never hurt anybody.


I wouldn't even consider "GG" trash talking.
It's very basic courtesy.
The same like "gl hf" at the start of a match.
It's not like someone is getting butthurt and "NANI? does he think i NEED luck?! Does he implies i am that bad? Does he think i won't have fun if i don't have luck?!"





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