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[CFC Conky]

Hello all,

I've been getting kicked from the server a lot recently and it might have something to do with a recent Windows 10 update. My game also started crashing so I had a look at my settings. I run the game in full widow mode and when I checked it was in full screen mode, which as you know, can cause game crashes.

I don't know if the Win10 update had anything to do with it, or the recent patch from PGI, but it might be worth a look.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[LordNothing]

full window op pls nerf.

frankly it should be the default setting, and there should be a popup warning that fullscreen is crashy when you try to change it. i attribute this to about 90% of the crashes you see.

[VonBruinwald]

LordNothing, on 28 May 2020 - 04:39 PM, said:

full window op pls nerf.

frankly it should be the default setting, and there should be a popup warning that fullscreen is crashy when you try to change it. i attribute this to about 90% of the crashes you see.

Not that I particularly disagree with what you're saying but there's also an element of "stupid people" to consider:

Most people don't understand the difference in how full screen and full window work.

Then they start alt-tabbing.

On loading screens....

[Willard Phule]

My recent disconnect issues, oddly enough, seem to be sound related. I updated my drivers and no more disconnects. Weird.

[KH Slaine]

VonBruinwald, on 29 May 2020 - 02:32 AM, said:

Not that I particularly disagree with what you're saying but there's also an element of "stupid people" to consider:

Most people don't understand the difference in how full screen and full window work.

Then they start alt-tabbing.

On loading screens....

Hey VonB. Might you describe the difference in how the 2 work and why 1 is better for MWO? Ya know, for the "stupid people".

[VonBruinwald]

KH Slaine, on 31 May 2020 - 02:35 AM, said:

Hey VonB. Might you describe the difference in how the 2 work and why 1 is better for MWO? Ya know, for the "stupid people".

Hopefully this clears it up for you.

VonBruinwald, on 08 July 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

Full screen is designed to eek out every ounce of performance by giving the application sole access to the display output. The downside being when you tab-out the OS has to switch renderers, which as you've noticed, can cause instability and crashes.

Windowed mode is designed for those who are looking to multi-task, the caveat being the application has to render through the display manager before being outputted to the display, which can cost a few FPS.

[D V Devnull]

Hello, everyone. Have any of you heard about instructing users in the use of 'Alt-Enter' BEFORE using the 'Alt-Tab', in order to actively prevent these crashes when going between Full-Screen and Full-Window/Normal-Window? CryEngine's biggest problem is just simply trying to execute a major transfer all at the same time.

Also, I don't know totally why unless it's due to not arguing with the Desktop Window Manager (even though I do tell it to keep Aero Glass enabled), but I do get my best framerates and visual clarity from Full-Screen Mode. Whenever I try to Full-Window/Normal-Window, I always find the performance reduced. Usually, it's a lot worse in Full-Window, even compared to Normal-Window being used. Maybe I'm just lucky because I'm on Win7, or that I'm just more careful about how I handle MWO's app, such that I'm dodging the crash possibilities?

~D. V. "wondering if Alt-Enter for Full-Screen & Window Switching is some kind of lost art" Devnull