If Mechwarrior started using modern weapon attributes, you'd quickly find that people will drop those gigantic walking targets and get into a nice hunkered-down tank.
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BT weapon ranges vs real life weapon ranges?
Started by Dr Duke, Dec 29 2011 09:38 AM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:47 PM
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 10:31 AM
Weapon Range and Effective Range are Two Different Animals.
Weapon Range is How far Can the gun shoot.
Effective Range is How far can the gun shoot and Do the best Damage VS X Target. The Range given in Classic Battletech is the Effective Range VS the Current CBT Standard in an Earth Like Atmosphere with 1g of Gravity.
As [EDMW]CSN pointed out in space the Weapon range can go Much farther. And underwater the Laser have a Shorter Effective range.
Case & Point
Take your Basic Laser Pin you have in your house somewhere. It has a range of what 2000ft or 609m or 20hex CBT. But it Effective Range VS your Skin is 0ft or 0m or 0hex for damage. (Not talking about that 1000mW Laser some of you rich players have but the basic $20-$40USD laser pen)
People point out the Range of Today’s weapons ok, Let me ask you this at what range does the M1A2 have to be to get a Kill VS another M1A2? Is it the “4000m” or is it much less? Yes the they and give each other a Ringing in the each other ears at 4000m but are they doing any real damage VS the armor?
Weapon Range is How far Can the gun shoot.
Effective Range is How far can the gun shoot and Do the best Damage VS X Target. The Range given in Classic Battletech is the Effective Range VS the Current CBT Standard in an Earth Like Atmosphere with 1g of Gravity.
As [EDMW]CSN pointed out in space the Weapon range can go Much farther. And underwater the Laser have a Shorter Effective range.
Case & Point
Take your Basic Laser Pin you have in your house somewhere. It has a range of what 2000ft or 609m or 20hex CBT. But it Effective Range VS your Skin is 0ft or 0m or 0hex for damage. (Not talking about that 1000mW Laser some of you rich players have but the basic $20-$40USD laser pen)
People point out the Range of Today’s weapons ok, Let me ask you this at what range does the M1A2 have to be to get a Kill VS another M1A2? Is it the “4000m” or is it much less? Yes the they and give each other a Ringing in the each other ears at 4000m but are they doing any real damage VS the armor?
Edited by wolf74, 02 January 2012 - 10:37 AM.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:57 PM
Prosperity Park, on 01 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:
If Mechwarrior started using modern weapon attributes, you'd quickly find that people will drop those gigantic walking targets and get into a nice hunkered-down tank.
wolf74, on 02 January 2012 - 10:31 AM, said:
Weapon Range and Effective Range are Two Different Animals.
Weapon Range is How far Can the gun shoot.
Effective Range is How far can the gun shoot and Do the best Damage VS X Target. The Range given in Classic Battletech is the Effective Range VS the Current CBT Standard in an Earth Like Atmosphere with 1g of Gravity.
As [EDMW]CSN pointed out in space the Weapon range can go Much farther. And underwater the Laser have a Shorter Effective range.
Case & Point
Take your Basic Laser Pin you have in your house somewhere. It has a range of what 2000ft or 609m or 20hex CBT. But it Effective Range VS your Skin is 0ft or 0m or 0hex for damage. (Not talking about that 1000mW Laser some of you rich players have but the basic $20-$40USD laser pen)
People point out the Range of Today’s weapons ok, Let me ask you this at what range does the M1A2 have to be to get a Kill VS another M1A2? Is it the “4000m” or is it much less? Yes the they and give each other a Ringing in the each other ears at 4000m but are they doing any real damage VS the armor?
Weapon Range is How far Can the gun shoot.
Effective Range is How far can the gun shoot and Do the best Damage VS X Target. The Range given in Classic Battletech is the Effective Range VS the Current CBT Standard in an Earth Like Atmosphere with 1g of Gravity.
As [EDMW]CSN pointed out in space the Weapon range can go Much farther. And underwater the Laser have a Shorter Effective range.
Case & Point
Take your Basic Laser Pin you have in your house somewhere. It has a range of what 2000ft or 609m or 20hex CBT. But it Effective Range VS your Skin is 0ft or 0m or 0hex for damage. (Not talking about that 1000mW Laser some of you rich players have but the basic $20-$40USD laser pen)
People point out the Range of Today’s weapons ok, Let me ask you this at what range does the M1A2 have to be to get a Kill VS another M1A2? Is it the “4000m” or is it much less? Yes the they and give each other a Ringing in the each other ears at 4000m but are they doing any real damage VS the armor?
Wow guys I love the points that you made! @Park:I would love to get in a tank and wreck some shop but they already said in the beginning we won't get tanks. @ Wolf: I know exactly what you mean, when I was with the USMC we learned there effective range and maximum range from a M9 pistol to M203,...sorry I was with the grunts and not tanks,but I google stuff and I look at the references on Wikipedia. Apparently Jane's Defence page you have to pay for, but www.fas.org has some decent weapons info from grenades to ballastic missiles.
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