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[feeWAIVER]

I saw a podcast where Daeron was saying he wished there was a quickplay progression goal other than just trying to get to Tier 1.

Well, is the balance good enough now that we could have ISvClan quickplay?
We could attach ISvClan Quickplay to the Faction Reputation system, and give players MONTHS of progression content to unlock, and rewards to unlock for participating.

Edited by feeWAIVER, 10 May 2021 - 09:19 AM.

[feeWAIVER]

Lockheed_, on 10 May 2021 - 09:16 AM, said:

The man's called Daeron, and no pls no further splitting of queues other than solo and group and i don't even need that.

Thanks, I updated the spelling.
Not asking for a new queue, asking them to put IS on one side and Clan on the other for the current queue.
I can't imagine it would have that big of an impact on queue time.

[pbiggz]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 09:21 AM, said:

Thanks, I updated the spelling.
Not asking for a new queue, asking them to put IS on one side and Clan on the other for the current queue.
I can't imagine it would have that big of an impact on queue time.

Our current queues are already fragile as is. Splitting them further than the existing quickplay queue and faction play would be inadvisable.

[Gagis]

No thanks

[Ignatius Audene]

Ofcourse this will throw mm time to oblivion. Current mm is often ignoring even tonnage for reasons.

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 10 May 2021 - 09:55 AM.

[feeWAIVER]

I would be interested in seeing drop stats for IS vs Clan, and a report on how much it would impact queue time.

[Wildstreak]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 08:41 AM, said:

We could attach ISvClan Quickplay to the Faction Reputation system

This kills the idea, you are removing probably one of the few reasons some ghosts still haunt FW.

[feeWAIVER]

Wildstreak, on 10 May 2021 - 12:20 PM, said:

This kills the idea, you are removing probably one of the few reasons some ghosts still haunt FW.

Faction play is my preferred game mode, but most people aren't playing it anyways.
You can still draw people into FP with:
1. Siege Maps
2. Ability to 12man drop
3. Drop Decks.
4. Increased rewards.


The ultimate question that nobody has dared answer is are IS and Clan now balanced enough to do Faction Quickplay?

Can we at least try it for a weekend event to see if we like it?

Edited by feeWAIVER, 10 May 2021 - 01:38 PM.

[Davegt27]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 08:41 AM, said:

I saw a podcast where Daeron was saying he wished there was a quickplay progression goal other than just trying to get to Tier 1.

Well, is the balance good enough now that we could have ISvClan quickplay?
We could attach ISvClan Quickplay to the Faction Reputation system, and give players MONTHS of progression content to unlock, and rewards to unlock for participating.

great idea
at least a Clan VS IS event

not many people remember the first Clan vs IS test
it was unannounced the next thing we knew we where fighting the Clans and getting royally stomped

but using tactics we managed to get a win and it felt oh so good

[feeWAIVER]

Lockheed_, on 10 May 2021 - 01:46 PM, said:

they are currently trying their best to grow the audience not lose players in droves.

You have provided zero evidence that IS v Clan Quickplay would substantially impact the average players queue time.

One could argue that marketing Faction Quickplay with faction rewards could not only entice people to come back, but enrich the gameplay itself, and give people a progression system that will keep them playing.

And these are all systems that are already in the game. This is low hanging fruit.

[pbiggz]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 02:22 PM, said:

You have provided zero evidence that IS v Clan Quickplay would substantially impact the average players queue time.

One could argue that marketing Faction Quickplay with faction rewards could not only entice people to come back, but enrich the gameplay itself, and give people a progression system that will keep them playing.

And these are all systems that are already in the game. This is low hanging fruit.

Its hard to prove whether it would or wouldn't considering that kind of matchmaking info is not available to the public, that being said the general wisdom is that more restrictions on any matchmaker means longer times to form matches, and that's true of any matchmaker in any game.

[feeWAIVER]

Lockheed_, on 10 May 2021 - 02:26 PM, said:

I am not talking about match making time. I am talking about the matchmaker is already struggling to put more or less equal teams together and with IS being just the better faction stomps would be even worse. Also I am going out on a limb here and say that at least half of the games population does not care about factions vs faction in QP, they just want to shoot some stompy robots.

If half the population doesn't care, then the other half does.
And the players that do care are probably the bigger spenders.

[feeWAIVER]

Lockheed_, on 10 May 2021 - 02:40 PM, said:

If half of the population does not care and half of that leaves because the game turns to **** you can just screw the matchmaker, have one big open queue and a god awful player experience for everyone and players who have a terrible experience will not spend any money.

I'm not convinced that it would be god awful. I'm not convinced the factions are so imbalanced.

[Nameless King]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 02:22 PM, said:

You have provided zero evidence that IS v Clan Quickplay would substantially impact the average players queue time.

One could argue that marketing Faction Quickplay with faction rewards could not only entice people to come back, but enrich the gameplay itself, and give people a progression system that will keep them playing.

And these are all systems that are already in the game. This is low hanging fruit.

Most do not want this or they already would be playing CW

[feeWAIVER]

Nameless King, on 10 May 2021 - 02:47 PM, said:

Most do not want this or they already would be playing CW

Strawman.
When people cite problems with FP, it's not IS v Clan that they complain about.
They don't even complain about balance.
They complain about spawn camping and 12 man groups seal clubbing pugs.

@lockheed you should be ashamed for 'liking' bad arguments that happen to support your position.

Have some integrity.

Edited by feeWAIVER, 10 May 2021 - 03:11 PM.

[Nameless King]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

Strawman.
When people cite problems with FP, it's not IS v Clan that they complain about.
They don't even complain about balance.
They complain about spawn camping and 12 man groups seal clubbing pugs.

That is not what I said, I said if people wanted ISvsClan they could play CW.

There is no reason to add it to QP which is and has always been the most used and enjoyed mode.

[feeWAIVER]

Nameless King, on 10 May 2021 - 03:12 PM, said:

That is not what I said, I said if people wanted ISvsClan they could play CW.

There is no reason to add it to QP which is and has always been the most used and enjoyed mode.

You said:

Nameless King, on 10 May 2021 - 02:47 PM, said:

Most do not want this (IS vs Clan) or they already would be playing CW

Implying that people choose quickplay because it's not IS vs Clan, which is not the case by any measure of the imagination.

[Nameless King]

feeWAIVER, on 10 May 2021 - 03:15 PM, said:

You said:

Implying that people choose quickplay because it's not IS vs Clan, which is not the case by any measure of the imagination.

Not implying anything, saying that if that is what they wanted there is already a game mode in which to do that.

Also this is not the first time this has come up and has been voted down so yes it was at least the case the last time a poll was taken.

[feeWAIVER]

Nameless King, on 10 May 2021 - 03:25 PM, said:

Not implying anything, saying that if that is what they wanted there is already a game mode in which to do that.

Also this is not the first time this has come up and has been voted down so yes it was at least the case the last time a poll was taken.

Please show me this poll.
Frankly, I'm not convinced that half a handful of forum trolls that will arguing anything down speaks for the community at large.


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Edited by feeWAIVER, 10 May 2021 - 04:35 PM.

[Nameless King]

Go find them, I am sure they cant be that hard to find. 2-4 years ago at this point.

I am not arguing, I am saying they already have that mode and that they most likely are not going to change QP that much (maybe for an event it could happen)

Also I have called for many many changes over the years and still do.