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#1 Darkbeetlebot

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 03:20 PM

I left some time after the Battle of Tukayyid event, I think. Been a long time since I played, but since I now actually have friends to play with I was considering coming back.

But before I do, my question is: What has changed since then? I mean in terms of major game mechanics and the meta. Things I'd need to know going back in. For one, I don't remember if there was a skill tree back then, and I definitely don't know how it works now. I don't want to come back only to go into a match with one of my old mechs and get curb-stomped because the weapons I used to use are now unviable or they have upgrades that I don't.

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 03:41 PM

A warm welcome back to MWO !

I personally call this MWO Reloaded Posted Image
(Major MWO overhaul since April 2021, known as MWO/Cauldron Patches)

Lots of toys to play with, and MWO feels like a new game to me Posted Image
~New weapons (Civil War timeline)
~New mech chassis (Crusader, Dervish, etc.)
~Even Special Variants of the very popular mechs frequently played (aka Platinum Collection)
~3 new maps, and more incoming!

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Gone since 2015?

http://mwomercs.com/civil-war-update
Civil War timeline (July 2017)

IS: Light Engine (engine does not explode upon side torso destruction, unlike the infamous XL Engine)
IS: Light-Ferro-Fibrous Armor, Stealth Armor
IS: RAC, MRM, Light/Heavy Gauss, various PPC (Snub-Nose PPC, Light PPC, Heavy PPC), etc.

Clan: ATM, Heavy Lasers, ER Micro Lasers, etc.

Lots of toys to pay with since this Civil War timeline update!

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Selected Resources to help you get started:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechs
https://mwo.nav-alph...uipment/weapons
https://mwo.nav-alph...pment/ghostheat
https://mwo.nav-alph...uipment/modules

https://grimmechs.is...ts?list=general
https://grimmechs.is...im.org/Database

<Unfortunately smurfy.de is totally out of date now>

Do have fun exploring this new game!! Posted Image

Edited by w0qj, 27 July 2022 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2022 - 03:51 PM

Part 2: answering your specific questions!

1. New Skill Tree (circa 2022): skilling up your mech Skill Tree has never been easier!


2. Weapon upgrade.
~New weapons introduced since you've left (via Civil War timeline detailed above)
~Weapons/ammunition themselves cannot be upgraded, so the new weapon you've just bought is exactly the same as the same weapon owned by payers who have been playing for 8-9 years!

In short, MWO is a very 'flat' game; new (or returning) player can get up to speed in terms of weapons/skill_tree/mech very quickly, and is on the same footing as veteran players in this aspect.

Skilling up the pilot is entirely another matter though (ie: me!) Posted Image

Edited by w0qj, 27 July 2022 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2022 - 04:02 PM

Part 3: even more eye watering details (aka Patch Notes)--just in case you want this blow by blow Posted Image

I personally call this MWO Reloaded Posted Image
(Major MWO overhaul since April 2021, known as MWO/Cauldron Patches)

Patch Notes
http://mwomercs.com/...auldron-changes
http://mwomercs.com/game/patch-notes
http://www.mwocomp.com/patches

HSL Quirk List
http://mwomercs.com/...-hsl-quirk-list

Edited by w0qj, 27 July 2022 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2022 - 07:32 AM

Haven't played in a while myself, a year or two.. what's the meta like these days for light mechs?

I flew to Tier 1 using wolfhound w/ med lasers, Kit Fox boating LAMS.. has this stuff gotten nerfed?

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 07:43 AM

lots of things, not much. its a matter of perspective.

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 07:52 AM

Judging from all those threads about "Light mechs are OP", you might be OK Posted Image

But seriously, why don't you install MWO and find out for yourself?

And you get a free Hero mech of your choice too, 7 more days until this is over.
Certainly a challenge, but still doable... Posted Image
https://mwomercs.com...s?t=202207beach
https://mwomercs.com/events/455
https://mwomercs.com/events/456


View PostCherge, on 28 July 2022 - 07:32 AM, said:

Haven't played in a while myself, a year or two.. what's the meta like these days for light mechs?

I flew to Tier 1 using wolfhound w/ med lasers, Kit Fox boating LAMS.. has this stuff gotten nerfed?

Edited by w0qj, 28 July 2022 - 07:53 AM.


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Posted 28 July 2022 - 09:05 AM

View PostCherge, on 28 July 2022 - 07:32 AM, said:

Haven't played in a while myself, a year or two.. what's the meta like these days for light mechs?

I flew to Tier 1 using wolfhound w/ med lasers, Kit Fox boating LAMS.. has this stuff gotten nerfed?


Well neither of those are meta, with wolfhound you can probably do ok if you play well. AMS doesn't provide matchscore (so I have heard) so yeah you can be somewhat useful in it but most likely won't keep you in T1 anymore.

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 09:09 PM

View PostCurccu, on 28 July 2022 - 09:05 AM, said:


Well neither of those are meta, with wolfhound you can probably do ok if you play well. AMS doesn't provide matchscore (so I have heard) so yeah you can be somewhat useful in it but most likely won't keep you in T1 anymore.


Yeah, AMS can no longer be used for matchscore farming.

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 09:39 PM

shortest answer, pretty much everything to one degree or another.

on a side note you should just forget abut Meta and just play what you have fun with. screw PSR or any of that ****. just play and have fun without stressing over all that extra nonsense. most meta try hards are just cry babies anyway (oh the tears when i rain LRM on them from behind cover (or not i get what locks i can) and they die because they thought that AMS was a waste of tonnage.)





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