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[Maris]

eh...not a fan of both but if I have a choice, Jenner. More tactical options, better survivability.
In an Atlas, if you stride into an engagement and find yourself outgunned, out maneuvered and generally in a shi*** spot, you are basically SOL.

In a Jenner, you can actually engage and disengage at will and besides, depending on vraiants, you can still pack a pretty decent firepower.

Remember what ol' Sgt Deadeye always said, folks.

"Speed is Life. You slow down, you die."

[Celestial]

Depends on the situation.
If I'm trying to win I'll pick the atlas.
If I'm trying to lose I'll pick the Jenner.
It's quite simple really.

[Mech Crusader 5000]

Nice choices to hear from all of you guys.

[Zarkan]

Yeah, I never could really handle striding into battle at a blistering 53kph so I think I'm not suited to heavies. Personally I'd rather have a Raven or Commando over a jenner, but between a jenner and a atlas? Jenner any day.

[xSNAKEx]

Nighthound, on 03 March 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Omg, what are we talking about? Bruce Lee vs. Mike Tyson ....poor mikey.

Anywho, so tell me how will you defeat a guy that can run circles around you faster then u can turn? Are we talking Sandbox open plain backside of the actual map here? Sure if there are no obsticles you will most likely win. This is not a arena game however so u can not see me comming a mile of and even if you do i will be on a different street by the time your missiles reach the place you shot at. A Jenner is more then twice as fast as you.
And I thought we were talking about non modified Mechs here since this is supposed to be IS 3049. And if you can modify your mech so can I and I bet you do not want that! Just picture that same Jenner with one Arm mounted PPC Jumping just high enough to shoot over a building and then be gone for 20 to 30 seconds only to pop up at a totaly different location and repeating the game again and again, how do you think you can hit that? You are to slow to evade that PPC shot and I am to fast to be hit by anything but a Laser ...oh wait there are no Lasers that can shoot at PPC range.

I play Battletech for over 13 years now and I played all WechWarrior and MechCommander Titles, I have build some of the most unfair Designs you can think of and I know how to use them. Yeah maybe I am old with my 33 years but I know Battletech and I know that facing an Assault Mech with Light Mech is bad but it can be done, I can't count how man Atlas', Stalkers and what not I killed in a friggin Mongoose or with my P-Hawk given some obsticles. If it comes down to it an Atlas is just a big slow *** target to practice with.

You know as much as statics lie contrary to what you are saying (its true how people are saying the Atlas is much more likely to win), I agree with you based on how YOU specifically play and the designs you use. I think you could beat all these Players stupidly using the Atlas even in previous games let alone this one which is being tailored to make all classes useful.

However the Smart Assault Heavy player rarely used at atlas in previous games

The Diashi is the one you gotta watch out for, its the one that doesn't have the limitations and constraint of the Atlas and that you stand no chance defeating even with your tactics, simply because you are outgunned out armored AT ANY RANGE. A good player will smack you five times as hard as you can in a light every time you can. After a few exchanges you are toast unless the Daishi player is a horrible shot. In other words you shouldn't t be directly going against a properly set up assault mech at any range. You should be picking your time to attack and shoot and as soon as you are spotted and you see that torso turning toward you run and hide because if you don't that will be the end of you.

Edited by xSNAKEx, 10 March 2012 - 07:54 PM.

[ENDMYSUFFERING]

Atlas. I'm in a semi-steiner frame of mind and thinking "Why the heck would you pilot anything lighter than 95 tons?". That, and I like to blow crap up, and that takes a while with a jenner.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention, I like the feeling of being a big, slow, lumbering behemoth that can level cities with a large arsenal of Rockets and autocannons. It makes me feel... well.... baws.

Edited by Flametrace, 10 March 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[xSNAKEx]

Flametrace, on 10 March 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Atlas. I'm in a semi-steiner frame of mind and thinking "Why the heck would you pilot anything lighter than 95 tons?". That, and I like to blow crap up, and that takes a while with a jenner.

EDIT: And I forgot to mention, I like the feeling of being a big, slow, lumbering behemoth that can level cities with a large arsenal of Rockets and autocannons. It makes me feel... well.... baws.

Its a good feeling isn't it, and one that should stay in a big way, especially in an American game .

Otherwise it will start to feel like a Japanese robot game. Where there is no sense of mass/power/momentum etc

Edited by xSNAKEx, 10 March 2012 - 08:06 PM.

[Zarkan]

daishi is a omni mech, shoot for the arms it's where most of the guns are .

[xSNAKEx]

Zarkan, on 10 March 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

daishi is a omni mech, shoot for the arms it's where most of the guns are .

Its arms look pretty strong man and very close tightly bolted to the body, You may be dead before you get the chance

Its a lot harder to destroy the arms of this




Compared to something like this



Also You can see how configurations like the Atlas and Mad doge etc have a lot of their weaponry exposed and not much armour at the head an pilot area, where as the Daishi's entire head and pilot is practically right in the most armored part of the head and is curved so that attacks bounce away from it once the hit

Edited by xSNAKEx, 10 March 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[TimberJon]

Of these choices. Jenner.

Assaults are not for solo missions, they need to be supported.

[Zarkan]

Maybe could also use the fact one Diashi is the same C-bill cost as like eight 3025 innersphere assualt 'mechs.

[xxShotgunxx]

Being a seasoned Jenner pilot, and having many notches on my belt that came from taking out Atlases with an Alpha to the rear torso, I can say that I would rather drive a Jenner. That being said, I have been blown out of the sky on many occasion by skilled Atlas pilots.

All things being equal (pilot skill, that is), in an online video game I think he with the least lag wins.

Lt. Col. Shotgun <TWB>

Edited by xxShotgunxx, 10 March 2012 - 08:40 PM.

[Wyzak]

Honestly between these two I would take the Atlas, mainly because I don't like the SRM dependent loadout on the stock Jenner. But when first starting out I will probably use a light like a Jenner or it's humanoid counterparts for money's sake.

[Name140704]

Whetu, on 03 March 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I'm only thinking of the classic 3025 and the two are like chalk and cheese.

The Jenner is your classic run, jump, strike light mek. Especially the 7F variant, no SRM and more armour?

The Atlas is your typical big ugly assault. It announces that the game will go a lot longer and the ground rumbles with their weight. But the Atlas is just a bully and like all bullies, they look tough, but punch like pansies.

The Atlas mounts the largest SRM, LRM and AC available, but only has 4 medium lasers. It hits hard, but not hard enough except at short range. Not enough ammo for the LRM or the AC. Yes it strikes fear from its size and presence, but I fear an Awesome over an Atlas any day in the week.

I pick the Jenner of the two, even if I prefer the heavy and assaults classes.

I'm with you on the Atlas. I prefer the Stalker or Awesome over an Atlas.

[Blackfire1]

urbanmech.

[Pulispher]

Jenner in the rear arc with the SRM-4

[palebear]

The least offensive choice would be the Jenner, I suppose. My play-style does not lend itself to piloting lumbering towers of destruction.

[Furious George]

I would prefer the Jenner. However it is worthy to note that the Atlas has a much better heat curve. Nothing worse than being shut down in a tin can.

[Fachxphyre]

as many have noted above, depends on the mission and the rest of the group's loadout.

[Red1769]

Normally, for assaults, give me ma Daishi! But with the choices given, I'd take the Atlas. Not much of a light pilot, but I'll at least experiment with a few designs I haven't piloted before. The Jenner I'm not a big fan of, but I'll at least try it once or twice. In game, it would depend upon the environment and what my teammates have. But I'm mostly the Assault/Defense role type of guy.