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[Bogus]

I don't use voice for the same reason I play pug: I just don't give a damn. I play games for the lols, not to be competitive or show off my e-peen with a sick KD ratio or anything like that. Voice chat is a hassle, especially in a pug situation where it's going to be a different channel every 10-15 minutes. I'll happily provide backup to an organized group but I'm not keen on going to a lot of efforts for the privelige of being ordered around by some guy on the internet in a game I'd probably play single player if it was possible. Seriously fellas, a "we're together, back us up guys" in team chat is all it takes. Too bad so few are willing/able to do this...

[Xanos]

Dont got a microphone. Also, microphones in a F2P game PUG will only end up with a 13 year old screaching ***** ***** ***** into your ear.

[Beorning]

Xanos, on 14 October 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

Dont got a microphone. Also, microphones in a F2P game PUG will only end up with a 13 year old screaching ***** ***** ***** into your ear.

Actually the 13 year olds are usually the polite ones.

[Taiji]

Beorning, on 14 October 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Actually the 13 year olds are usually the polite ones.

That's because they typically aren't drunk as well as sexually frustrated... Just guessing...

Edited by Taiji, 14 October 2012 - 08:02 AM.

[UrbatOrbi]

hi,

by beginning a new game, need to skill me, handle this things like movement, waepons, armour, heat, etc and killing.

This are many hours in game, make mistakes, read forums etc.

And then here is beta, so testing all - after that done, I will look after ppl who make the same thing - so I think we will have more wins than loses:)

each who can win a 1 vs 1 know what i mean.

Greetings
UrbatOrbi

[D3lness]

Rotaugen, on 12 October 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

I admit that I am an "older gamer" at 47. I've stopped using voice on most games because of the foul mouthed brats. Heck, I don't even want to read the text for the same reason. The MWO crowd seems more mature overall though. I'll probably give it a go once it goes open and two of my equally old buddies are on with me. We'll have to look for an "Old Geezer" group.

I don't think it has anything to do with age since I'm 25 and feel the exact same way. I avoid voice chat with random people because usually the experience is awful, If I find a cool clan to run with I'll definitely use voice more, but not until then.

[Tastian]

I've had this discussion with people in other MMO's. I'm a dad and most of the time I play at night after I put my now 3 and 5 year old down for bed. The 3 year old wakes up often still and I have first shift which means I have to A) listen for him to wake up: Can't keep headphones on over my ears and have to keep quiet since the computer is next to their room: Can't talk or play sound. I've had people kick me out of groups because I won't speak or listen to them but I am pretty competent. I do type and take orders well if people tell me a plan.

[AzureHydra]

Don't need it. Most people are just fooling around in it. I'm good enough that I can be a Lone Wolf all the time and be a huge asset to any team.

[Decimus Antarii]

Tikonov Superior. PUGs inferior.

[Jack Gallows]

I think if people don't want to use VOIP it's fine.

However, if I'm in a partial group and the puggers opt not to use VOIP, then I effectively ignore them or use them as canon fodder/etc. I don't care how fast you can type, in the heat of the moment it's not enough. It's not an automatic "screw you" but don't expect me to come save you if you get in over your head.

You might think this shallow, but that's just how I feel. It's your prerogative to not use voice chat, and it's mine to handle that as I see fit.

[vettie]

Well I HAD to vote in both parts of the poll. No option in the 2nd part of the poll to say "I do SOMETIMES"

Here's the deal - when my friends (soon to be team mates or you call them pre-mades) ARE online, then we use either our OWN TS server or the semi integrated C3 system.
C3 works and works fine. We have created our own channel. If you form a group, it comes up automatically (if you clicked to remember your info, it even logs you in) and will assign you a room. As others join your group, they too, will be invited to the room/channel. Having our own room in C3 works just fine too. We just tell joiners to the group to go to 'our' channel. It even works if the game is not running.
One thing i did notice with C3 is that if you start it prior to starting the game and a group/ the push to talk doesnt work properly. I sent in a Bug Report to C3 on this. Other than that, works good.

When my friends are NOT online, I just like to play. If someone invites me to join them on TS2 or 3 or C3, I would most likely join them, but it is not that important to me. We are not (yet) fighting for anything or than C-Bills and XP. Playing with 7 others I dont know and DONT have on comms doesnt bother me because I will just have a repair bill, i wont lose the planet or the princess, or the factory, so its no biggie to me. Sure I like to win, and we (me and 7 randoms) often do win. Its also pretty obvious when we play a pre-made, but I am ok with it because, as I said, I will only have a higher repair bill and wont get as many XP.

I got stacks of C-Bills that I prolly wont spend before next wipe and I have all the modules unlocked on a couple of different chassis and I have all the pilot goodies available (so far). So I just play, call it Lone Wolf, call it PuG (I really hate that term) or call it some id10t wandering about the wastelands, I dont care. i have fun and I enjoy playing. Invite me, i will (mostly likely) join you. Dont invite me, thats ok too, i am simply enjoying the game and finding bugs, problems and things i see (imo) that are wrong, read about others thoughts on it and submit tickets if it wasnt something I did or caused.

[Abagnatius]

I never voice chatted, and the one or 2 times I did try were complete sillyness. I am a pugger because I ge most fun out of the game that way (MWO, WoT, WoWP). I do not care what the other people do, when we get a 8-2 win I am happy and when we loose 2-8 I am amused.
I do NOT judge anyone in any way... one of the things I love about MWO's grouping plans is that premades can join up together and play together - against other premades. True team combat for those who prefer it, lone-wolf pugging for us others. Everyone is happy.

[Wescott]

Prefer Skype it has less lag has less distortion(more overhead bloat ware since you know who sarted messing with it, still). two users are active on Skype in our houshold for gaming use, every time we try and we do 2-3 times a year keep trying TS, we suffer from the same same rubber band effects for voice that the game curently exhibits in graphics it is not for us, so we just dont use it. Also past experience when playing Eveonline, Skype is just all round better more like a normal crystal clear phone connection ideal with a group who range across europe, the UK, Ireland and Canada etc. BTW in the last group for voting nothing applied as you can read from the above so it was a simple random choice ...

Edited by Wescott, 14 October 2012 - 01:25 PM.

[aspect]

This poll is awful. The reason I usually just play in PUGs is because I don't feel like talking on teamspeak most of the time, ie my wife is watching a show next to me or something. It's not because I'm too stupid to figure out a voice chat client, antisocial, or too cheap to buy a headset...geeze...

[PhasedOut]

AzureHydra, on 14 October 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

I'm good enough that I can be a Lone Wolf all the time and be a huge asset to any team.

What I hear when people say that is " HEY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY AS A TEAM, AND I THINK I'M AWESOME."

You'll have to prove yourself as an exception if ever we cross paths.

[Sarevos]

Lol the best reason I'm getting out of this thread for the lack of teamspeak is Wife/GF aggro...

Gotta be honest it IS embarrassing when you f*ck up and your significant other (gf in my case) decides to let you have it for all your team to hear XD

PhasedOut, on 14 October 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

What I hear when people say that is " HEY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY AS A TEAM, AND I THINK I'M AWESOME."

You'll have to prove yourself as an exception if ever we cross paths.

If you are a decent shot and can follow the herd you pretty much win even without any kind of plan or communication so long as SOMEONE has an idea what they're doing

groups are not superior in this regard... they win by load-out synergy most of the time (having scouts with tag lrm assaults long range/sniper heavies and brawler meds is an example) something that must be handled before the game actually begins

that is their only MAJOR advantage as one commander can coordinate pugs well enough with just a single map marker so long as everyone has 3 or more brain cells

if pugs didnt specialize their mechs for a role they may not even be able to fulfill pugs wouldnt be stomped as often (if only one person is really set up for close combat it means nothing as his team cant support him and the other team can just focus him down) if they used fairly range neutral builds they would be able to adapt well trade lrms or get in close under the min range (everyone should have ams atm as missiles are in style at the present)

a big problem is pugs cant ping their location or do anything but type if we could use signal pings that would solve most of the issue (not like the commanders map but just us tapping the radio on and off to show contact or lack thereof)

[Ghogiel]

Sarevos, on 15 October 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

groups are not superior in this regard... they win by load-out synergy most of the time

imho, while I have played with some rather good pug players, the average skill level of a player who plays with groups of friends is definitely much higher. You are more likely just to have some rather bad players on pugs. Not saying I haven't teamed up with some poor players in premades, I have for sure, but not in the frequency of which when pugging

Edited by Ghogiel, 15 October 2012 - 03:03 AM.

[FD Wulfette]

I have a simple point to make. I AM DEF so how would voice chat benefit me any shape form or fashion. I am only a lone wolf because I am actively seeking members of my former MW4 clan =FD=. I am an =FD= those guys knew my disability they didnt treat me any diffrently. I loved that fact about my boys and girls, they didnt patronize me just cause I was diffrent. The built me up as a pilot. Here in MWO i get comments that focus on my disability. "poor thing" and the usual Oh im sorry you cant hear I was even asked to leave a group that was forming due to the fact of my disability they wanted pilots that could and would use voice chat while playing. Im just tired of people treating me like im broken cause my ears dont work. Im not broken and can still pilot my battlemech just as effectivly as you people with working eardrums.

Sorry I just had to vent. Dont feel sorry for me HELP ME BETTER MYSELF as a PILOT and a PERSON.

[impar]

I will not use any 3rd party VOIP software.
Either it is integrated in the game or it does not exist.
Considering that we are in late 2012, I find it impossible that a game engine does not have integrated voice communication.

I use regularly voice communication in other games, L4D, TF2, BF, CoD, ...

[Sarevos]

Ghogiel, on 15 October 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

imho, while I have played with some rather good pug players, the average skill level of a player who plays with groups of friends is definitely much higher. You are more likely just to have some rather bad players on pugs. Not saying I haven't teamed up with some poor players in premades, I have for sure, but not in the frequency of which when pugging

I can appreciate that but I wasnt referring to skill just coordination skilled players SHOULD win over unskilled players 9 times out of 10 (1 to 1)

also alot of the "bad" player problems are just very poor team composition (for instance in lol you can be the best lee sin out there but it doesnt matter if everyone else on the team is a support champ youre still gonna lose) if everyone picks a build that requires someone to watch his back but nobody is built to do so im afraid its game over and thats not something you cant really know before hand so its better to build a more flexible setup

Edited by Sarevos, 15 October 2012 - 03:19 AM.