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Now That The Cataphract 4X Exists, We Can See The True Power Of The Ac5.


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#21 PropagandaWar

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:05 AM

View PostPurlana, on 21 November 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

I will bet money on my AC/20 Cat over a AC/5 boat any day of the week.

Was ripping ThunderCats to shreds yesterday but not witha a AC Phract. But a bigger better Phract. The "Lazer" Phract!

Edited by PropagandaWar, 21 November 2012 - 11:08 AM.


#22 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 21 November 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

A lot of smart stuff


Has your UAC5 efficiency reflected the jamming chance?

#23 Omega1618

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

View PostPropagandaWar, on 21 November 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Was ripping ThunderCats to shreds yesterday but not witha a AC Phract. But a bigger better Phract. The "Lazer" Phract!



4 x LL phract with 19-21 DHS and a 300 engine is the best mech I've ever ridden. But shhhh, we don't want them catching on.

#24 SpiralRazor

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

How is it substantially better then the Awesome with multiple LLs?

#25 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 21 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:


Has your UAC5 efficiency reflected the jamming chance?


No, the data is still a bit older, it doesn't reflect the recent UAC/5 changes yet unfortunately. I will need more data on how often it occurs to estimate an effective DPS value. I hope to steal the information from someone else, like Ohmwrecker perhaps ;)

#26 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

The AC/5 has been maligned because it's a somewhat slow-firing weapon DPS-wise (~3dps) that has a range roughly comparable to the AC/10 (4dps, with 10dmg in one spot instead of 5dmg), but a much shorter range and 33% more weight than an AC/2 (4dps) and less damage concentration that the AC/20 (5dps, 20dmg in one spot).

The AC/5's ONLY boon is the fact that it's the second most heat-efficient projectile weapon (aside from the Gauss, which is 3x more heat efficient than AC/5 and better to field than a pair of AC/5 in my opinion).

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However, a pair of UAC/5 has the same firing rate as 3 AC/5's with 0% jamming risk because the UAC/5 has a 50% higher RoF as the regular AC/5, and still only generates 1 heat per shot.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 21 November 2012 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:57 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 21 November 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

The AC/5 has been maligned because it's a somewhat slow-firing weapon DPS-wise (~3dps) that has a range roughly comparable to the AC/10 (4dps, with 10dmg in one spot instead of 5dmg), but a much shorter range and 33% more weight than an AC/2 (4dps) and less damage concentration that the AC/20 (5dps, 20dmg in one spot).

The AC/5's ONLY boon is the fact that it's the second most heat-efficient projectile weapon (aside from the Gauss, which is 3x more heat efficient than AC/5 and better to field than a pair of AC/5 in my opinion).


But as I said before its DPS/ton is better than every AC other than the AC/2

#28 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:58 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 21 November 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:


But as I said before its DPS/ton is better than every AC other than the AC/2

UAC/5 has a higher DPS/ton than normal AC/5... without double tapping (same heat efficiency)

AC/2 - 4dps/6 tons
UAC/5 - 4.55dps/9tons
AC/5 - ~3dps/8 tons
AC/10 - 4dps/12 tons
AC/20 - 5dps/14 tons

Edited by Prosperity Park, 21 November 2012 - 01:02 PM.


#29 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 21 November 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

UAC/5 has a higher DPS/ton than normal AC/5... without double tapping (same heat efficiency)

The problem in my experience is that it's hard to guarantee you're not accidentally double tapping. So the Double-Shot UAC/5 eficiency is always a bit questionable. I am not even sure actually that the Jamming only triggers on double tapping.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostJaded Jasper, on 21 November 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Try instead 2xUAC5 + 2xAC2.


Mmmm

#31 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 21 November 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

The problem in my experience is that it's hard to guarantee you're not accidentally double tapping. So the Double-Shot UAC/5 eficiency is always a bit questionable. I am not even sure actually that the Jamming only triggers on double tapping.

You rack disiprine.

#32 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 21 November 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

You rack disiprine.

Can you say this in form of a meme?

#33 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:26 PM







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