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[Count Domar]

I wanted to upgrade my Cicada and add the Guardian ECM yet it only gives me the option to add it to the head which only has one available slot. Why even offer it if it cannot be equipped?

In the closed BETA when it was offered (even though it was non-functional) it could be added to the torso. Am I doing something wrong or is it only able to added to the torso on some models?

[Redshift2k5]

This seems to be a bug, but NOT in the way you think it is.

The ECM does not work. It should not be available for any slot on any mech, and they forgot to take it off the list for Heads.(pure conjecture, but I have my theories)


On a Raven 3L that comes with a GECM equipped in the LT, if you remove it, it still doesn't appear in the equipment list. Therefore I expect that the item should nto appear in the list for any mech and any section.


The fact it appears in any mech's head at all is a bug; not being able to equip it is working as intended.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 24 November 2012 - 07:17 AM.

[Count Domar]

It does not appear on the mech. It appears when in the Mechbay as an option to install but only shows up when you have selected the head. It does not show up as an option for any other location. Since the head only has one available slot it means you cannot even install it if you wanted to.

[Redshift2k5]

Count Domar, on 24 November 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

you cannot even install it if you wanted to.

correct! I believe this is working as intended.

I also believe they simply forgot to take it off the list for heads, and that is a mistake.

The GECM does not actually function, so you're not missing anything anyway. I'm sure you will be able to mount it to your Cicada when the GECM is actually added in-game.

[BlackSquirrel]

No workie yet...

Also damn they need to only allow it to work on specific mechs and specific variants that aren't ECM boats.


Otherwise...

[Redshift2k5]

BlackSquirrel, on 24 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

No workie yet...

Also damn they need to only allow it to work on specific mechs and specific variants that aren't ECM boats.


Otherwise...

See the Feature Roadmap http://mwomercs.com/...eature-roadmap/

ECM

Target Date: December 4th - 60%

Status: Play Testing, Additional Feature Work

Notes: Working on balancing. Most likely will limit to specific Light/Medium Chassis for now (similar to how jump jets work).

[Count Domar]

Thanks all. It is good to know that it is just a glitch and I should be able to use it later on.

[BlackSquirrel]

Redshift2k5, on 24 November 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

See the Feature Roadmap http://mwomercs.com/...eature-roadmap/

ECM

Target Date: December 4th - 60%

Status: Play Testing, Additional Feature Work

Notes: Working on balancing. Most likely will limit to specific Light/Medium Chassis for now (similar to how jump jets work).

Oh that you jesus!! Didn't get that update. Certain heavier mechs/variants did have it, but yes it should be allowed to fit on just anything.

[Joseph Mallan]

BlackSquirrel, on 24 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

No workie yet...

Also damn they need to only allow it to work on specific mechs and specific variants that aren't ECM boats.


Otherwise...

You mean like this one?

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[color=#000000] The 3Fb variant of the[/color]Stalker[color=#000000] carries a Guardian ECM Suite in the center torso,[/color]

Or this one...(in a lil while)

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[color=#000000]CTF-4L - A Capellan upgrade produced during the [/color]3060s[color=#000000], the 4L is built using a standard fusion engine and utilizes thirteen and a half tons of [/color]Stealth Armor[color=#000000] along with a [/color]Guardian ECM[color=#000000] suite for protection.[/color]

Also in the future the Jenner will have...

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[color=#000000]For the 'Mechs protection, it has an [/color]Angel ECM

Hunchback...

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[color=#000000] the 5P carries an [/color]ECM Suite[color=#000000] as well as a[/color]C3 slave[color=#000000] to share targeting telemetry with its lance mates.[/color]

So There isn't many of our chassis that cannot carry an ECM by your suggestion.

[BlackSquirrel]

Exactly... Which leave the raven (All versions) and I think an Awesome variant, and a stalker.

Which leads back to roles, and stronger team play. You imagine if everyone in TF2 could cloak and backstab?

Be horrible.

[BlackJackRaider]

I bought a Raven 3L and removed the ECM, but it has completely disappeared from my inventory. Does this mean that I'll have to rebuy it, or will it reappear when they implement mounting ECMs again? I really don't want to rebuy the thing, because it is somewhat pricey.

[Trauglodyte]

For the health of the game, they're going to need to limit the chasis that can carry BAP and ECM. IF they don't, and we don't know what line of thinking that they're going with, they will probably limit the power of the BAP/ECM and then buff them through role specific modules. Right now, though, having everyone running around with ECM would be disasterous. Its bad enough that most mechs are running XL engines and pushing 76kph+ on such small maps, thus making the role of scouting moot. Add in everyone running ECM and you'll make indirect fire LRMs pointless on these maps and pretty much nulify the use of Streaks.

ECM is a damned ugly slippery slope.

[Kelb]

It would be great if the Guardian blocked the Streak

[OpCentar]

My prediction is that an ECM suite will make your mech invisible to enemy targeting sensors at a certain distance.

In other words - if that enemy LRM boat is at, lets say 800m, he can't get a lock on your mech until you get within, lets say 400m.

So StreakCats will have no problem hitting you at their range. LRM boats will most likely cry.


It will be hilarious if not only targeting was jammed but also detection sensors as well. Hello invisible Jenners.

[FrostCollar]

Trauglodyte, on 26 November 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

For the health of the game, they're going to need to limit the chasis that can carry BAP and ECM. IF they don't, and we don't know what line of thinking that they're going with, they will probably limit the power of the BAP/ECM and then buff them through role specific modules. Right now, though, having everyone running around with ECM would be disasterous. Its bad enough that most mechs are running XL engines and pushing 76kph+ on such small maps, thus making the role of scouting moot. Add in everyone running ECM and you'll make indirect fire LRMs pointless on these maps and pretty much nulify the use of Streaks.

ECM is a damned ugly slippery slope.

Don't worry too much - given the quote "[color=#959595]Most likely will limit to specific Light/Medium Chassis for now (similar to how jump jets work).[/color]" it seems that only a few mechs will be able to get it. This will make many Raven owners, myself included, much happier. I'm pretty sure this means that there won't be any ECM Jenner hordes or anything.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

I really wanted an ECM on my Cataphract, too. Oh well.

[AlexWildeagle]

Trauglodyte, on 26 November 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

For the health of the game, they're going to need to limit the chasis that can carry BAP and ECM. IF they don't, and we don't know what line of thinking that they're going with, they will probably limit the power of the BAP/ECM and then buff them through role specific modules. Right now, though, having everyone running around with ECM would be disasterous. Its bad enough that most mechs are running XL engines and pushing 76kph+ on such small maps, thus making the role of scouting moot. Add in everyone running ECM and you'll make indirect fire LRMs pointless on these maps and pretty much nulify the use of Streaks.

ECM is a damned ugly slippery slope.

For the health of this game they need to make this more readily available. Easy mode LRM combat is out of control and there is almost no place to hide as the missiles fly through many types of barriers no matter how much they cover your mech. And combat devolving into nothing but missile rainbows is not how battletech is suppose to go.
If ecm modules are limited to certain chasis' then LRMs need to be limited in scope and amount as well.

[Biruke]

AlexWildeagle, on 26 November 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

For the health of this game they need to make this more readily available. Easy mode LRM combat is out of control and there is almost no place to hide as the missiles fly through many types of barriers no matter how much they cover your mech. And combat devolving into nothing but missile rainbows is not how battletech is suppose to go.
If ecm modules are limited to certain chasis' then LRMs need to be limited in scope and amount as well.

very true

[New Breed]

They'll break the game even more if Jenners stay on the list