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[AceTimberwolf]

::EDIT:: So How do people FEEL about DFAs? Being about to win and then getting stomped in the face by some light mech.

::original::I searched but didn't see a main topic on this. Are we gonna have some awesomely amusing DFAs? I hate it when it happens but hey its how the game is played. A foot in the face goes along way.

Edited by AceTimberwolf, 08 May 2012 - 03:55 PM.

[Helmer]

From Paul himself...


"No melee.

Yes to charge and DFA."

http://mwomercs.com/...post__p__233709


There have also been several other threads in the past located (using a quick search)

http://mwomercs.com/...__fromsearch__1

http://mwomercs.com/...__1#entry200877

http://mwomercs.com/...__1#entry183756

http://mwomercs.com/...__1#entry183590


Welcome to forums! Most questions can be answered by either visiting the thread found here http://mwomercs.com/...-pretty-please/

The FAQ http://mwomercs.com/support#faq

Or by using the search function.

Apparently DFA is popular today, so we'll let this thread go as to, hopefully , prevent a few more from popping up over the course of the next few days. Plus it has voting!


For the record, I vote yes.

Cheers.

[AceTimberwolf]

Ah Strange seems the other people had trouble Searching for it as well. My bad! Lets do some rewording....

Edited by AceTimberwolf, 08 May 2012 - 03:53 PM.

[Saren21]

Sounds kinda cool but kinda hard to jump jet in to a moveing target let alone when its smaller then you and unloading all of its ammo in to you. in the table top i am told the DFA tactic was used alot with the hatchit man.

I just think it will be racked up as collision dmg with no "Bonus" DMG.

Not sure how complex they are gonna go with that.

[Mike Silva]

AceTimberwolf, on 08 May 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

Ah Strange seems the other people had trouble Searching for it as well. My bad! Lets do some rewording....

Eh, it's a forum, it exists to communicate with others. Don't beat yourself up about the search thing.

[AceTimberwolf]

Saren21, on 08 May 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Sounds kinda cool but kinda hard to jump jet in to a moveing target let alone when its smaller then you and unloading all of its ammo in to you. in the table top i am told the DFA tactic was used alot with the hatchit man.

I just think it will be racked up as collision dmg with no "Bonus" DMG.

Not sure how complex they are gonna go with that.

Well in MechWarrior 3 you could come up on a ledge passive and land on someone which either killed them or made them topple over... though you could topple over as well. This on a Dragon would be a Critical Hit or into a Cockpit of a Jenner or Catapult which would be a bit harder to hit as they are doing stuff out of reach usually.

[Sephyr]

Sure for Yes, the only method to inflict any damage if your Weapons are gone.

[Vollstrecker]

A properly executed DFA is terribly difficult to master. Properly executed, you're dropping from a great height onto a (very likely moving) 'mech. I'm not a fan of the "jumping into a 'mech to barely clip their chest/head while still climbing" version, seems like cheesing it to me. I hope that if implemented, the game will tell the difference between the two and reward them appropriately.

[Saren21]

AceTimberwolf, on 08 May 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

Well in MechWarrior 3 you could come up on a ledge passive and land on someone which either killed them or made them topple over... though you could topple over as well. This on a Dragon would be a Critical Hit or into a Cockpit of a Jenner or Catapult which would be a bit harder to hit as they are doing stuff out of reach usually.

Ok i get it its more like a high risk high reward type tactic. sounds like it could be used in an ambush as well when mechs are not moveing at "battle" speeds. used to get the jump on them ( i know bad pun)

[Larry Headrick]

Yes. I would love to jump on thier head with my Victor, and if thay get up i use the AC20. It's too bad it dammages the legs.

[Vollstrecker]

Saren21, on 08 May 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

Ok i get it its more like a high risk high reward type tactic. sounds like it could be used in an ambush as well when mechs are not moveing at "battle" speeds. used to get the jump on them ( i know bad pun)

It's a very difficult tactic that can potentially have you plant a foot in their head. It does damage their legs (and automatic fall on your 'mech, giving others a free shot at you). Usually a "last resort" kind of tactic since the potential for massive failure is very high, but when you land one... oh man, you laugh for a long time about it.

[Kanil]

It's an extremely difficult tactic to pull off, and the damage reward is usually worse than if you had just fired your weapons instead.

Of course, if you have no weapons left... well, it sure beats standing there and dying. Just make sure you don't get in between your opponent and incoming fire -- others on your team probably do still have weapons.

There's also the possibility of pulling off an epic DFA that crushes the face of some big assault 'mech and wins your team the battle, a memory not soon forgotten. Unlikely, but won't you ever feel like a badass!

[osito]

34 for yes 0 for no. I think we all want to see some highlander burials in the game. At the very least we all want see someone try to dfa and end up crash/burn. Funniest mess up i saw was this panther pilot trying a dfa. He was yelling out suck on this. He missed and ended up in the forward arc of a atlas....ouch.

[Stormeris]

if some heavy mech falls on my head, ill /salute him

[Kraktzor]

Vollstrecker, on 08 May 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

... but when you land one... oh man, you laugh for a long time about it.

My first time ever piloting an Urbanmech in TT, I managed to DFA an Atlas..right in face. Crushed the cockpit and killed the pilot. Rest of the Atlas was undamaged....it was almost orgasmic!!

[JP Josh]

oh god yes please yes include this. i loved standing ontop of other mechs and jumping up and down on them (they were noobs just standing there) and i also wish to do this to buildings!

[Wolfman58]

DFA Should be allowed... BUT... at a high risk cost.
Self inflicted damage from any hard collision,
and worse if the attempt FAILs.

[Hagan]

I'm all for Death From Above. Its a valid tactic, especially considering how difficult they are to pull off at the best of times.
Like any skill, you have to practice it to get good, and live fire attempts would be not only difficult but 'bloody dangerous' if you get it wrong.

Your battlemech is only as good as the skill of the pilot, doubly so for a jump capable mech, as once in the air you have no cover and are committed to whatever course of action you have taken, including DFA attacks. Get it right, well done, pat on the back. Get it wrong, and eat the dirt as you come crashing down, provided you are not vaporised in mid air.

LB-X autocannons exist for a reason, after all.

And what if you fall short of your target? I've seen people in MW4 online multiplayer who tried to DFA an atlas and took an AC/20 round to the cockpit as he landed. I don't sorry for him, he took a risk and it didn't pay off, it happens.

It gives us a new threat to look out for, to keep our eye's peeled and to watch the sky's as we battle.

[StandingCow]

They would have to be very careful with implementing it... and even then it should be VERY rare... It would have to be a perfect drop, not using your jump jets to charge and just nick another mech's head...

And if it does make it into game... if you miss... you should risk severe damage to your legs.

[Havoc2]

Used to run unit elemental wars in MW2:Mercs.

I remember being down to just me and another guy, both out of ammo with our SLas destroyed. I jumped about a mile in the air and landed a DFA to win the tourny.


Laughed my *** off for the rest of the night. So did everyone else who watched it.