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[LOWJACKCITY]

SpiralRazor, on 24 December 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

Ive never seen any "skilled" player kill me with LRMs. Its mostly by luck... Last week I got killed by LRMS once...in my stalker...and it was definitely because i was the one making a stupid play.

LRMS are mostly trash.

ya totally trash. i just did over 1K dmg and got 5 and 3 kills in the last two pug games with my LRM stalker. just throw that away--totally useless.

Every single person on MWO thinks they are the **** (and yet entire teams lose on a regular basis..hmm). I consider myself as good as any person who has been playing this since the midway through the founders program release (but MW2 and so forth a long time ago, so I am familiar with the overall idea). I have many mechs including this LRM Stalker. But this thing is the most consistent powerhouse if my only goal, regardless of how I wish to play that particular time, is to churn out dmg.

5M- 4xLRM15s + art, 4x Medium lasers, BAP, TAG. The only way I suck is if their whole, undamaged team runs into my position (assault rush for instance), if my team sucks at holding them off for a decent bit, or i get too excited and run in like a noob. I can take down charging lights/mediums from TAG distance at least. If not, my 4 MLs will enter the conversation. If I dont do crazy damage a match, its ok...I usually at least serve a good suppressing role. ECM is nothing to me, esp in heat vision.

Edited by LOWJACKCITY, 24 December 2012 - 09:01 AM.

[Livewyr]

SlXSlXSlX, on 24 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Just bc its harder touse them now than when it was missle spam online... Does not mean they are balanced in ratio to teh other weapon types. They are still much easier to hit and score with than ballistics in use, and require far less effort to position the mech to make shots with.

Develop more skills than spamming missles. And dont think taking your asslt mech to the front line to help mates is a bad thing. Some of you, I jsut can't fathom.

Quit Spamming missiles...

Kinda like saying "quit spamming lasers" and "quit spamming ballistics" they're another type of weapon.. and especially NOW they don't have the advantage of just ****** across the map, because of ECM.

I use my LRMs at an average distance of 400 meters.. with LOS to use tag on ECM'd mechs.. and btw: UNLIKE ballistics.. I have to keep the tag on them at all times lest I lose lock.

Please. Try again.

[SlXSlXSlX]

Look at teh post above yours.. Misles are still king of the roost. It shows. Read lowjacks post, slowly. Don't skip any words.

[IceSerpent]

FrostPaw, on 24 December 2012 - 06:38 AM, said:

I've not ever seen my reticle turning red from missiles dumb fired into the ground so I have to assume the red reticle means I'm hitting somebody.

Key word here is "somebody" - not necessarily your target and not necessarily an enemy.

[LOWJACKCITY]

it doesnt matter though kid. I dont use it all the time...using any one mech over and over bores me. I usually change mechs every match or two.

Beyond that you fail to see the specific things that have to happen in order for me to excel as a boat. I am not very versatile (think...42kph)...like at all. My lasers help for sure (look everyone I can aim too!) but it definite cant do well in nearly every situation. Having said that, BAP and TAG definitely help me be more self sufficient in PUGs. Definitely not as easymode as people would believe. I have to hold lock (and TAG, if possible) or at least get it back before they hit the ground. I don't just fire when it locks. I look for the terrian, the direction the mech seems to be heading, how fast, whether a teammate could get hit int he salvo, etc. Sure it's not twitchy point and shoot, but it's definitely not something anyone just pick up and do well with.

Edited by LOWJACKCITY, 24 December 2012 - 10:17 AM.

[Livewyr]

SlXSlXSlX, on 24 December 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

Look at teh post above yours.. Misles are still king of the roost. It shows. Read lowjacks post, slowly. Don't skip any words.

I've done 1300 damage with lasers too.. and?

Missiles are viable, not king.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Hardly fire and forget.

[Joseph Mallan]

SlXSlXSlX, on 24 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Just bc its harder touse them now than when it was missle spam online... Does not mean they are balanced in ratio to teh other weapon types. They are still much easier to hit and score with than ballistics in use, and require far less effort to position the mech to make shots with.

Develop more skills than spamming missles. And dont think taking your asslt mech to the front line to help mates is a bad thing. Some of you, I just can't fathom.

No you can't. There are many Missile Boat Assaults in The TROs. It just boggles the mind how closed minded some folks are when it comes to waging war. Arm Chair Generals

[PANZERBUNNY]

There's a reason most balanced stock designs also have LRM's.

They are essentially in Btech.

[Livewyr]

PANZERBUNNY, on 24 December 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

There's a reason most balanced stock designs also have LRM's.

They are essentially in Btech.

But! but! They make me have to pay attention, use cover and ECM effectively!

(People whining about LRMs with ECM available just goes to show just HOW much they hate anything that might remotely change how they have to think and play...)

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

PANZERBUNNY, on 24 December 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Hardly fire and forget.

Sell and forget.

Livewyr, on 24 December 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

But! but! They make me have to pay attention, use cover and ECM effectively!

(People whining about LRMs with ECM available just goes to show just HOW much they hate anything that might remotely change how they have to think and play...)

But! But! Brawlers don't have to do anything but stand near the ECM!
(Exact same crap you said about us applies to the brawlers that whined about LRMs in the first place rather than "changing how they have to think and play".)

[GalaxyBluestar]

lrm's are both useless and deadly, deadly towards people who can't get undercover. most of the time you can get undercover. my awesome is too slow so i take a pumbling but very rarely have i been caught up so bad that lrm boat alone has killed me. sometimes if you're close enough the lrm boat has to depend on one alpha to take you and if they can't you smother them to death. fun times. so a good lrm boat makes sure there's a bralwer meat shield to cover flanking possibilities and the enemy are too preoccupied to take cover ie they're in a middle of a fight so turning tale for cover ain't an option so that's when lrm's rake in the kills. tag or no tag lrm boats are extremly effective in the right conditions and are utterly hopeless when up against ecm and closerange strikers/brawlers. so when you see one stay out of the knife fights and figure how to get close to him, it saves your teammates from being spammed to death.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

That's the thing, they didn't properly balance missiles. They just threw in a game breaking device to take care of it. You now have a high end of a scale(When you can shoot), or the gutter bottom(when you can't). If I roll a Stalker right now and stack up LRMs or Streaks, it'll either stomp enemy teams when it can shoot, or do nothing when it can't. ECM should have been less of a device itself while missiles were nerfed on their own, which would have prevented the top high - bottom low problem. They could have also buffed AMS, a device everyone can use, meaning 4 variants in the game aren't wonder variants.