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[p00k]

TB Freelancer, on 28 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

...and stats have absolutely everything to do with it.

probably a lot, but not everything. people were doing this the day before open beta, despite knowing that everything, stats and all, were getting wiped the next day. people on these forums (and thus not ignorant to the fact that stats were getting wiped)

[Zylo]

Elkarlo, on 28 December 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

So please comment if you have noticed this as well.

I see this most often from Streak A1 cats when they run into a mech with ECM or from ECM mechs when someone is about to kill them using only direct fire weapons.

I really don't care so much about the stat side of it but I do care about the lost C-bills and EXP. Other players who would have picked up assist credit are also hurt by disconnect exploiters.

[EvilCow]

There are several possible solutions, all of them repeatedly proposed during closed beta:
1) Assign a kill if someone disconnects after taking damage during the last 30 seconds or so.
2) Assign a kill if a disconnected mech is destroyed within 30 seconds or so from the disconnect event.
3) Make disconnects visible in stats and make you stats visible to your friends list or simply public.
4) Remove KD from stats-

I would simply make disconnect=death, after fixing the CTDs.

[Lokust Davion]

I care about stats and kdr, but pressing alt F4 during any game is a dishonourable and shameful act.

There should be a stat showing how many times you have pressed Alt F4 in game.

[PiemasterXL]

Lokust Davion, on 28 December 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

I care about stats and kdr, but pressing alt F4 during any game is a dishonourable and shameful act.

There should be a stat showing how many times you have pressed Alt F4 in game.

[Lokust Davion]

EvilCow, on 28 December 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

There are several possible solutions, all of them repeatedly proposed during closed beta:
1) Assign a kill if someone disconnects after taking damage during the last 30 seconds or so.
2) Assign a kill if a disconnected mech is destroyed within 30 seconds or so from the disconnect event.
3) Make disconnects visible in stats and make you stats visible to your friends list or simply public.
4) Remove KD from stats-

I would simply make disconnect=death, after fixing the CTDs.

A simpler solution is to just lock said battle mech to stay in the match and allow anyone who destroy it to get a kill. The same way you get to kill an AFK mech.

Edited by Lokust Davion, 28 December 2012 - 11:50 PM.

[MrPenguin]

Lokust Davion, on 28 December 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

I care about stats and kdr, but pressing alt F4 during any game is a dishonourable and shameful act.

There should be a stat showing how many times you have pressed Alt F4 in game.

They could track that if they wanted to actually. Not a bad idea either.

[Murku]

Gotta admit, I'm surprised people are freely admitting to 'justifiably' Alt-F4ing.

Pugstomped, No hope, outclassed, surrounded by the scissors to your paper - so what? Suck it up.

Worst line (sorry but true) is 'blah blah blah situation is 'just not fun'. For who? By that definition every kill you EVER scored was not fun for the victim, and we all should be trying for an Alt-F4 before we die.

Alt-F4 sucks. We all want to have fun. If you can't accept someone else having fun then your parents did a bad job.

Sorry to rant.

[PiemasterXL]

Murku, on 29 December 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

Gotta admit, I'm surprised people are freely admitting to 'justifiably' Alt-F4ing.

Pugstomped, No hope, outclassed, surrounded by the scissors to your paper - so what? Suck it up.

Worst line (sorry but true) is 'blah blah blah situation is 'just not fun'. For who? By that definition every kill you EVER scored was not fun for the victim, and we all should be trying for an Alt-F4 before we die.

Alt-F4 sucks. We all want to have fun. If you can't accept someone else having fun then your parents did a bad job.

Sorry to rant.

This.

[Dummschau]

You got it wrong. We don't ALT+F4 in order to make our statistic better. We ALT+F4 to deny the kill from you (e.g. you don't get the XP and Cbill bonus that you would from the normal kill).

I ALT+F4 every time when I'm about to die, whenever possible. I don't care about my own statistics.

Edited by Dummschau, 29 December 2012 - 03:59 PM.

[PiemasterXL]

Dummschau, on 29 December 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

You got it wrong. We don't ALT+F4 in order to make our statistic better. We ALT+F4 to deny the kill from you (e.g. you don't get the XP and Cbill bonus that you would from the normal kill).

I ALT+F4 every time when I'm about to die, whenever possible. I don't care about my own statistics.

I see your English has improved greatly from the 'temkill and leg' thread. I'm calling you on your bluff, troll.

Edited by PiemasterXL, 29 December 2012 - 04:04 PM.

[xRaeder]

Elkarlo, on 28 December 2012 - 02:57 AM, said:

The last 2 Days i have been noticing a new playstyle, which is annoying at last.
And i want to see if others have noticed this as well.
There are some Players out there which are so proud of there KDR ratio that they
ALT+F4 out of the Game when they are going to die.
Then their death is not recognized in the Statistik on the Killer and the one which
bailed out with Alt+F4.

So this players bails out when they noticed that they are on the losing Side of the Game.

We had this even by a Raveln-3L Pilot, he was fighting for 5-6 Minutes, then we legged him,
and when the Final Blow came: <Playername has killed>

Counting the Kills in this Game the whole team made 5 kills in the End !
There was no Disconnected Player in the Enemy Base so 3 Players seemed to have bailed out, it seems that our Premade team hit another Premade and we stomped them. Then the Pugstompers didn't want their KDR be reduced and the whole Pugstomper team made Bailouts.

In My opinion bailing out should not negate stats, and as long as someone made Damage his stats should be counted and not killed by bailing out. That would be problematic by the Players which have real problems but as long as they didn't do damage they won't get Statistic Entrys.

But it would hurt the E-Peen Pugstompers which bail out when they are beaten fair and square.
Because they Bail out the Winner don't get Damage, don't get Kill Assist Bonus and no Component destroyed bonus.

I noticed this now several Times, and the worst case was that of the Pugstompers.
And why i am annoyed about this: I don't care about my KDR ratio, but we fought well and everyoen which Bailed out stole 7.500 C-Bill from the better team.

In this Case 22,5k C-Bills. I know it isn't much but i want to know if others had the experience as well, or if i was just unlucky. We will have a Patch in 2 Weeks and when it is a new Phenomen then it would be good when PGI fix it.

So please comment if you have noticed this as well.

I ALT-F4 because the game is stupid. I just don't give a crap anymore. There really is no point in playing it anymore. I have all the money I could want... all the Mechs I want unlocked... nothing more to do in this game... It's boring, and limited... and the only reason why I do is because I like Mechwarrior.

[ElmoWithAGun]

I never understood why people care about stats considering nobody can see them but themselves...

[Joshin Tokugawa]

Dummschau, on 29 December 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

You got it wrong. We don't ALT+F4 in order to make our statistic better. We ALT+F4 to deny the kill from you (e.g. you don't get the XP and Cbill bonus that you would from the normal kill).

I ALT+F4 every time when I'm about to die, whenever possible. I don't care about my own statistics.

And of course you would rather take out your own teammates to make an even match but would alt-f4 to deny the other side what they deserve by killing you. I'm still kinda new around here and I see the same circle of people doing these shady things. If you can't play the game as its intended, deal with the situation that you get, then why not just uninstall and save us your bs in future matches?

[Dummschau]

Joshin Tokugawa, on 29 December 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

alt-f4 to deny the other side what they deserve by killing you. I'm still kinda new around here and I see the same circle of people doing these shady things. If you can't play the game as its intended, deal with the situation that you get, then why not just uninstall and save us your bs in future matches?

As long as the game mechanics allow it, I will continue doing it. There are plenty of people who care about nothing else than kill/death ratio, and they usually stay back while rest of the team is fighting. I'm happy if I can deny a kill from people like that.

[Zylo]

I guess some of the replies here will help bring attention to this problem so it can be fixed. Of course PGI has too many other issues that need fixing as well.

Anyone have odds on Alt-F4 exploit being fixed before netcode?

How about odds on Alt-F4 exploit being fixed before knockdowns return?

[Sandslice]

Dummschau, on 29 December 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

You got it wrong. We don't ALT+F4 in order to make our statistic better. We ALT+F4 to deny the kill from you (e.g. you don't get the XP and Cbill bonus that you would from the normal kill).

I ALT+F4 every time when I'm about to die, whenever possible. I don't care about my own statistics.

Then you admit to griefing. Noted.

[Zylo]

Sandslice, on 29 December 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Then you admit to griefing. Noted.

This guy seems very similar to that guy with the image of a pug in his sig, although he has a slightly different reason for using Alt-F4.

[Sandslice]

Zylo, on 29 December 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

This guy seems very similar to that guy with the image of a pug in his sig, although he has a slightly different reason for using Alt-F4.

Meh, not too worried about it... though I have suffered someone's alt-F4 once. It was a Stalker, and I was actually having success. Took all its weapons through side torso pops... and then it alt-F4'd just in time to avoid the kill. :<

[JSparrowist]

I recommend ALT+F4'ing when you're being ECM ***** by an obvious premade...but only if you're not in a premade group yourself.

QQ ******* while I ALT+F4 and ruin your premade pugstomp ECM abuse party.