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[paladin yst]

After looking at the rewards table and reading the tournament info numerous times, i was lead to believe,

Top 5 players of each class in each day wins 3 mil + a trophy.

Eg im top 5 heavy in day 6 i win 3 mil + peace necklace.

Then comes the most highly anticipated reward, the hula girl. I believe the table says top 20 of each class meaning 80 hula girls will be given out. Im top 17 heavy, so i thought i have one.

Now comes the question for this misleading tourney info. So the table says top 20 overall then scroll down says win 2.5k mc and hula girl, yes theres a but, but it also says score is base on top 20 plays. So does it means just that?! If thats the case i got mislead and somewhat scammed big time for my time and effort.

So someone please clarify, esp a mod or something, does it means only ppl with names on the board wins, meaning 40 ppl will get hula girls and 40 ppl each week will get 3 mil and a trophy?!

Man i was mislead badly if thats the case, utterly crushed and dissapointed, the table is put in such a format it make ppl actually believes top 20 of overall for each class gets a hula girl meaning 80 hula chicks.

[BlackDrakon]

I dont really think you will get an official answer, but I'm with u 100% I got completly misleaded by the rules. Even my unit brothers thought it was the overall top 5 per class who will get the 2,500 MC and hula girl.

Im telling you, next time I will have to google translate (as someone did in a post I made about it) to be real sure about the rules, and if its something like this, I wont even bother.

Gratz to the winners! Hopefully all ur MC will get lost in the cyberspace and instead of a hula girl, ull get a poptart (raspberry of course).

[hammerreborn]

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.


For all your possible reading levels. But I'm pretty sure the size isn't going to help simple comprehension.

Edited by hammerreborn, 03 May 2013 - 12:22 PM.

[BlackDrakon]

You represent sarcasm in every post dont u?

He is talking about the table, it wasnt clear, most ppl dont read everything, they go for the table, and thats where we got confused. Are you happy with it?

[hammerreborn]

BlackDrakon, on 03 May 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

You represent sarcasm in every post dont u?

He is talking about the table, it wasnt clear, most ppl dont read everything, they go for the table, and thats where we got confused. Are you happy with it?

Who says the rules are confusing when they haven't read the rules. LAZINESS IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR IGNORANCE

And how do you represent sarcasm? Am I it's lawyer?

Edited by hammerreborn, 03 May 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[paladin yst]

Dont mind him lol, just some noob whose not even in the scoreboard to start off with. Not to mention he dont even know how to read the table lol. It says day 1, top 5, 3m cbills, hula girl, so on and so forth.

Pgi is at fault here as they didnt clarify the requirement. When u already told the participants the score is base on top 5 and 20 games played, u dont frikking put that again on the rewards table, coz its absolutely redundant and confuses the participant. My entire clan thought theres 80 hula girls as well, not just me, ive heard so many ppl saying they r close to 20 and aiming for the last 20th hula girl spot.

If all of them knew theres only 1 per class, none of them would bother opting in. All been misled like drakon and me.

[Night Rider]

ey man dont hate on him for your lack of reading comprehension

[neviu]

how could people think the top 5 or top 20 would win,,,

realy,,

ime not native english

and i understanded it,

[paladin yst]

Neviu have u seen the rewards table? Says top 5, day 1, 3m cash, hula girl and so on.....

The working is terrible, first the say daily winnersss with a big s on the winners, which implies more than 1 winner per class. The easiest way is to simply not put the top 5/20 on the rewards table. And simple say the sole winner of each group will receive x items. Simple.

But in this case the tells u winners and they put a table saying top 20 wins these, either way ill never ever bother to join tournament again. Very disappointed at this one, i thought tournament is to encourage the very few great players in the entire realm to battle out each other and gets rewarded. 80 hula girls is not even enough, a 100 would be great, but 4 is trolololol. Similarly giving out just 5x3m cbills and 5 items per class is frikking NOT generous, now fact is they only gives out 1 per class!

Hands down to pgi, got trolled this time, never again. Tournaments suppose to be generous and rewards the hardest top 1% in some generous tournament they rewards up to the top 10%. This one rewards only 1, enough said.

[hammerreborn]

paladin yst, on 03 May 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Neviu have u seen the rewards table? Says top 5, day 1, 3m cash, hula girl and so on.....

The working is terrible, first the say daily winnersss with a big s on the winners, which implies more than 1 winner per class. The easiest way is to simply not put the top 5/20 on the rewards table. And simple say the sole winner of each group will receive x items. Simple.

But in this case the tells u winners and they put a table saying top 20 wins these, either way ill never ever bother to join tournament again. Very disappointed at this one, i thought tournament is to encourage the very few great players in the entire realm to battle out each other and gets rewarded. 80 hula girls is not even enough, a 100 would be great, but 4 is trolololol. Similarly giving out just 5x3m cbills and 5 items per class is frikking NOT generous, now fact is they only gives out 1 per class!

Hands down to pgi, got trolled this time, never again. Tournaments suppose to be generous and rewards the hardest top 1% in some generous tournament they rewards up to the top 10%. This one rewards only 1, enough said.

Fix it before you complain about anyone else's writing being confusing.

Edited by hammerreborn, 03 May 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[Strisk]

paladin yst, on 03 May 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

....coz its absolutely redundant.....

This is exactly the reason it's in the table, to be redundant so that you can follow along from one section to the next if you read everything.

The table says, "Best 5" and "Best 20 all Week" which refers to the single player with the "Best 5" matches of the day and "Best 20 all Week" which is clear enough if you read all the text above it, imo.....

Previous contests have also had only one winner per period/prize category so that shouldn't be confusing either.

Do I understand how you got it wrong? YES.....does that make it PGI's fault...not really....

Not sure what else to say, I've been confused before, it's not fun, but just because you interpreted something incorrectly doesn't mean PGI owes out more prizes than they promised...

[paladin yst]

Lol hammer ive no time for ppl like u. I know its hard when some ppl r better and some r not, learn to deal with it lol.

As for strisk tell that to the top 20s elite. Should they know theres only 1 reward i can guarantee u will find the score pretty much less than 3k avg.

[Strisk]

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The weight class group winner at the end of the event is determined by your 20 best performances over the entire tournament period.

This is from the official tournament page, the word "winner" refers to a single person, in the English language if more than one person is being referred to the word is then changed to winnerS with an S at the end so that you know it is plural.

By this simple reading of the rules that were posted before the tournament began you can gather the information that each weight class group will have a single winner.

Again, if you didn't notice or misread it's understandable, but it doesn't change the fact that PGI never misled anyone about it...

[Sable Dove]

Strisk, on 04 May 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

This is from the official tournament page, the word "winner" refers to a single person, in the English language if more than one person is being referred to the word is then changed to winnerS with an S at the end so that you know it is plural.

By this simple reading of the rules that were posted before the tournament began you can gather the information that each weight class group will have a single winner.

Except.

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This is an opt in, solo only challenge where we will take each players best five matches in each weight class to determine daily group winners.

This states that each weight class will have multiple winners, and the chart confirms that by showing the "Top 5 (Top 20)" of each row (weight class) will receive the listed prize.
So some of us figured that either they wrote half a sentence wrong, and meant "...in each weight class to determine the winner for each group," or they forgot an 's' in the next sentence.

Some of us gave them more credit than they were due.

[Strisk]

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This is an opt in, solo only challenge where we will take each players best five matches in each weight class to determine daily group winners.

This sentence is slightly more ambiguous than the one I posted, and if it were the only sentence in the rules it would lend more understanding to the confusion. However, there are actually 7 daily winners from each group (edit: one for each day of the contest), for a total of 28 daily group winners. This is why this sentence lists a plural noun, because it is more than one winner total.

Again, it is not to say that it cannot be confusing, but lack of understanding doesn't mean that PGI lied to anyone.

Edited by Strisk, 04 May 2013 - 12:41 AM.

[Sable Dove]

Strisk, on 04 May 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

This sentence is slightly more ambiguous than the one I posted, and if it were the only sentence in the rules it would lend more understanding to the confusion. However, there are actually 7 daily winners from each group (edit: one for each day of the contest), for a total of 28 daily group winners. This is why this sentence lists a plural noun, because it is more than one winner total.

Again, it is not to say that it cannot be confusing, but lack of understanding doesn't mean that PGI lied to anyone.

The one you posted isn't ambiguous; it's just whether or not you notice the missing 's'. (plus, it's poorly written altogether, but that's another issue) Which, if you interpret the preceding sentence in a certain way, you're probably just going to read it a 'winners' anyways, because your brain is expecting consistency.

The chart provided also indicates multiple winners.

If you read it like it's set up, you end up with "Top 5..." from the columns, "...Light/Med/Heavy/Assault..." from the rows, and the prizes from the intersections. Giving you the "Top 5 [Class] receive [prize]" for each day. That's how most people read charts like that, at least.

Not that I really care too much, as even if it were top 5, my only prize would be 3MM CB and one of the worse cockpit items that would end up just collecting dust. I'm just trying to give the feedback that this tournament was poorly designed, poorly explained, not fun, and if there had been an entry fee, virtually no one would have entered.

[Strisk]

That's your opinion of course and you are entitled to it.

Reading a chart and ignoring the text that goes with it is never advised.

I believe the proper reading of the chart, using the text to support my answer, is, "the Player with the Best 5 matches wins..." etc.

[Sable Dove]

Strisk, on 04 May 2013 - 01:05 AM, said:

That's your opinion of course and you are entitled to it.

Reading a chart and ignoring the text that goes with it is never advised.

I believe the proper reading of the chart, using the text to support my answer, is, "the Player with the Best 5 matches wins..." etc.

Except the text is ambiguous, and can easily be interpreted in two very different ways. Just as the chart can be (and the more obvious interpretation of the chart is the wrong one).

Making the explanation ambiguous, and making the most obvious interpretation wrong, is a poor choice. Not expecting to be reimbursed or anything; would just like PGI to be more clear next time (and also design a contest that's actually fun for more than a handful of people).

[Farpenoodle]

I'll admit I initially thought it was 5 winners for each class per day and 20 winners at the end of it all. Thinking back on it that's probably the biggest reason I decided to take part at all. I'm know I'm not that good. When I figured out it probably meant 1 winner per class per day and 4 winners at the end I was already pretty deep and I just wanted to see how far I could go. I mean yeah I had fun and don't really regret the time I spent but I do think PGI should consider rewarding more people for future tournaments just to increase participation. It's just imaginary mech bucks anyway.

[slash b slash]

Because of this confusion they should give a unique hula girl to everybody that participated.