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#41 Rotaugen

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

A lot of people seem to think lights are invincible. If that is true, if each side has one, and one light takes out the other, is't that a win for the side that still has one? After all, the bigger mechs can't kill it, right? Except I've killed a lot in my supposedly helpless Atlas.

#42 EyeOne

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

I am normally a medium/heavy pilot. When I decide to take a light mech out, 100% of the time this is my thought process: I'm tired of going slow.

No thought of lag shield or your overstated "win button" whatsoever. So, there ya go.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

I play everything, I play what i think is fun, and i don't let whiny post's change that...nice try mcfly

#44 Two Beans

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

I don't square them in my head, I dodecahedron them. Get on my level.

#45 TungstenWall

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

As a COM-1D pilot, I take offense to this. >:D

I play the COM-1D to not be 'cheese'


Also Lage-Shield is when you boost your Ping with youtube or another stream to cause lag. You will know a Lagshields when you see 600+ Ping.

#46 M4L4R3K

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

View PostPihb, on 21 January 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

You drive a light mech, you know you have an unfair advantage over everyone else. How do you square this in your head? Put aside the fact that PGI has not called what you do cheating. How do you go out every match, in a mech that you and everyone knows has an unfair advantage. If you were a 13 year old i would understand why you enjoy having an I win button. I loved cheat codes when i was 13.


Back in closed beta, there were lots of light mech pilots.(were you in CB?) The netcode was better(except the occasional mech teleporting) and there was barely any lagshield. There was another thing implemented in the game: COLLISIONS! Back then light mech pilots had to be smart not to faceplant and be taken out quickly. Bumping in an atlas could mean a certain death. You better not complain on the subject when lagshield and netcode are fixed. It would just mean that you are bad at this game.

We need light mechs in game for scouting and sneaking past enemy lines!

View PostChavette, on 21 January 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

You're right, real men play heavy or assault.


Real men don't whine about light mechs. They deal with it.

Edited by M4L4R3K, 21 January 2013 - 10:46 AM.


#47 Nightcrept

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:44 AM

View PostTungstenWall, on 21 January 2013 - 10:38 AM, said:

As a COM-1D pilot, I take offense to this. > :D

I play the COM-1D to not be 'cheese'


Also Lage-Shield is when you boost your Ping with youtube or another stream to cause lag. You will know a Lagshields when you see 600+ Ping.


And if you vary your speed while being lag shielded you can prevent players from being able to adjust their lead to your lag. This means your almost invulnerable.

#48 Starburster

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

Lets see...I am causing a light to get mirrored on their team, one that is more then likely going to be using crutch weapons. Since the only ecm mech I used was a 3M, I actually had to worry about missile fire from all quarters. For the record..I actually enjoyed driving my jenners more in closed beta then after launch, knockdowns and all.

#49 Nightcrept

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

Does anyone know why they won't put knockdowns back in game.

#50 CG Chicken Kn

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:49 AM

View PostEbon Wing, on 21 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

I hardly consider my jenner and 31 ping an I-WIN buttin when i take it out but as to how i justify it...

"WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"



12 ms ping. Jenner.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Any questions?

#51 DerHuhnTeufel

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

I genuinely spot and go after weak targets on the edges of a battle. But the spider can't do much in the way of damage no matter the model.

When I'm in in my commando, it's usually because I'm tired of all these crap-for-skill ravens 3Ls thinking they're awesome because they're driving a broken mech.

#52 Kraven Kor

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:51 AM

I don't have to?

This is a game. One that is still in beta, regardless of any technicalities surrounding the use of that term.

When I get trounced by lag-shield light mechs, I don't hate the player who is piloting it. I don't even get mad at PGI. I just say "Welp" and play the next fracking match.

#53 Pan Damonium

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:52 AM

My guess is that if PGI started sneaking in improvements unannounced and 'lagshield' issues started appearing less and less, the people that complain HERE about the same issues repeatedly would continue to complain - repeatedly. People are attached to their disappointment, and without a problem to cling to they become confused and disoriented.

Ive noticed that either:
A - there are some things are already being improved
or
B - I am just getting better at hitting light mechs

Either one demonstrates to me that as much as PGI may need to continue to make improvements, I continue to need to improve as a player (alot!). For now I will do as much of that as possible from my end, since that is about all that I can do (i.e. practice)

#54 Multitallented

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:52 AM

My main mechs are the RVN-3L and the CDA-3M. I justify using them because the enemy will have lights and mediums as well.

If people knew how to lead targets and aim we wouldn't be having this discussion. Also if the game is broken, PGI hasn't told anyone to not play the Raven 3L. They haven't taken it out. How can you expect people to not play it?

I was a light pilot before the huge lag shields and when knockdowns were in. I look forward to that future, and I will still do 800 damage and kill the entire team.

#55 NitroDev

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

I justify it like this:

Is it in the game? Yes. Then it's ok.

#56 M4L4R3K

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

View PostNightcrept, on 21 January 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

Does anyone know why they won't put knockdowns back in game.

Have you heard of 'Dragon bowling'? People would fit the biggest engine possible in a dragon and knock other pilots to the ground while their teammates would gang the downed mech one at a time. Even the Atlas fell when bumped by a dragon with that sort of build.

#57 bloodnor

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

fine by your reasoning all meds heavies and assaults need to nurfed armour and weapon wise

#58 Pihb

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

View PostGreatBeer, on 21 January 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

'You disagree with me. You are therefore a troll'.

Good attitude. Youre going to go far in life.


This is why we cant have nice things. Someone says something you are threatened by, what do you do? You lash out and make puny attempts to insult them. If you disagree, thats great. Tell me why you disagree, explain to me how i am wrong. Educate me.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

**Incoming transmission**


++Cockpit Recorder Combat Log++
++Cicada-3M - Designation Uller++

Black Ace Lead This is Black Ace Scout

Heading out to locate and disrupt the enemy.

WHHEEEEEEEEEE

Whahahahahahahaaaaaa

WHEEEEEEEEEEE

Black Aces enemy contact found 2 DDC's commencing harassment

Pew PEW PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HAHAHAA Yooooouuuuuu can't hit meeeeeeeeeee HAHAHAHA

Wheeeee PEWPEWPEW PEW

Ooops... Uh oh....

Black Ace Scout disengaging from harrassment enemy fast movers in bound please assist.

Roger that LRM's inbound will hold them in the open.

Wheeeee Pew pew Wheee

Confirm Enemy ligths destroyed re engaging Assault mechs.

WHEEEEEEEE.....

Account continues in that vein

#60 Lucky Noob

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostChavette, on 21 January 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

You're right, real men play heavy or assault.


Hey , my Hunchi is driven by an Real Men too :D





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