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[Tina Benoit]

Hey MechWarriors!
Thank you for your past contribution in making the latest released Champions!
It's that time again where we'd like to release another 8 Champions and this thread is for the Hunchback IIC Champion!

Please submit your build for the Hunchback IIC Champion!

Post your build using Smurfy Mechlab, with whichever variant you'd like.
Remember to click the Like button at the bottom of other posted builds which you would vote for to become Champion!

The post with the most Likes will be implemented to MWO.

Thank you very much again for your contribution!

[-Ramrod-]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...55da9ffe6c55227

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HBK-IIC-A laser vomit

2xLPL 4xERML, 19 DHS, XL 275, FF/Endo, single JJ and TC1

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Another standard build for the HBK-IIC but also fun to play and effective.

2xUAC10 5.5t ammo, XL 255, FF/Endo, 1 JJ.

JJ in the leg so you can still jump after losing an ST.

Edited by BlackhawkSC, 08 July 2016 - 09:48 PM.

[GMan129]

UAC/5 HBK-IIC http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c74603448d0ee29

Edited by GMan129, 08 July 2016 - 03:33 PM.

[Nightshade24]

When people want to play a Hunchback IIC trial, they want to try out something new and unique (ie: dual ballistic hunch).
when someone clicks on the trial hunchback and see's laser vomit they get disappointed.

One of my friends that's new to the game is disappointed because to his perspective clans is 98% laser vomit nad nearly running the same build from light mechs to assaults give or take a Gauss rifle. So I best propose a design that is a hunchback IIC rather then a poor mans Stormcrow.

HBK-IIC

A Hunchback IIC with twin UAC 10's and dual ER Medium Lasers. I would have went with dual UAC 20's but that is only forgiving with pillot skills which is not available to a new player.
The armour is heavily increased, still keeps 4 jumpjets, and has 4.5 tonnes of ammo. Not the most ammo in the world but expected of a Hunchback IIC.

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GMan129, on 08 July 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

UAC/5 HBK-IIC http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c74603448d0ee29

Didn't you say on your master guide the reduction in speed wasn't worth it for the slightly higher DPS on the triple 5s? I played both and I agree with your assessment. For the 5's I just dropped the two ERMLs to go to XL255 and stick to hill humping without having to expose the CT as much.

[MaxFool]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9db45b10b9f04ab

Hunchback IIC-B, 4ASRM6 2MPL, nick named Splatback.

[Sy Co]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...254176bf9a5b488

HBK-IIC
3 C-Ultra AC/5
4 Tons of ammo
2 C- ER Medium Laser
2 Jump Jets
268 armour
Clan XL 250

Edited by Sy Co, 08 July 2016 - 03:50 PM.

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Nightshade24, on 08 July 2016 - 03:42 PM, said:

When people want to play a Hunchback IIC trial, they want to try out something new and unique (ie: dual ballistic hunch). when someone clicks on the trial hunchback and see's laser vomit they get disappointed.

I think you're making a big assumption. There are many reasons why people play trials. Uniqueness is one reason but sometimes they also just want to see how effective a chassis can be without owning it.

Not that the A laser vomit build isn't unique. It's the only clan mech that has that kind of firepower at that weight class and can also JJ into nice positions on Mining, Canyon, etc. Stormcrow can't do that. Nova suffers from lack of heatsinks and low mounted arm weapons. The high mounts are also pretty sweet on pretty much every map but most notably Caustic and Crimson imo.

[TheBigMountain]

"Skrum"

XL 275, 10 Med Laser, 4 JJ, 13 DHS, Max Armo(u)r

Fired in groups of two, keep any at bay.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aac98b3983dcab8

[GMan129]

BlackhawkSC, on 08 July 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

Didn't you say on your master guide the reduction in speed wasn't worth it for the slightly higher DPS on the triple 5s? I played both and I agree with your assessment. For the 5's I just dropped the two ERMLs to go to XL255 and stick to hill humping without having to expose the CT as much.

lately ive been really enjoying the velocity, range, projectile count, and reliability of the uac5s. its slower and relatively less capable at shorter range, but i think they share a pretty similar power level

[Nelos Kniven]

Good ballistic\brawler Hunchie, focus on ballistic 3 lb-5x with good ammo, 2 er med lasers. lbxs have decent damage and rof, I think this is a good all around easy to use build. chaining the 5s makes for a constant stream of fire.

Edited by Gr Armpit, 25 July 2016 - 07:52 AM.

[Nightshade24]

BlackhawkSC, on 08 July 2016 - 03:56 PM, said:

I think you're making a big assumption. There are many reasons why people play trials. Uniqueness is one reason but sometimes they also just want to see how effective a chassis can be without owning it.

Not that the A laser vomit build isn't unique. It's the only clan mech that has that kind of firepower at that weight class and can also JJ into nice positions on Mining, Canyon, etc. Stormcrow can't do that. Nova suffers from lack of heatsinks and low mounted arm weapons. The high mounts are also pretty sweet on pretty much every map but most notably Caustic and Crimson imo.

So. Let's say a proposal around this...

We got 20 clan trial mechs / champions.

1 has a large pulse laser and 6 er mediums
three mechs has 2 large pulse lasers and 4 er meds
another has 1 large pulse laser and a er med
one has 1 large pulse laser, 3 er meds, and a gauss rifle
one has 2 large pulse lasers, 4 er meds, and a gauss rifle
one has 6 er meds
one has 6 er smalls (most unique one so far)
one has 3 er meds and a UAC 10
one has 6 er meds and 2 large pulse lasers...
one has 2 large pulse lasers...
one has 1 guass, 1 er medium, and 2 large pulse lasers...

etc. you get the point...

then we throw in this hunchback: pair of large pulse lasers and then some ER mediums...

how much viarirty does the clans have to a new players eyes? Seeing half of the mechs have all the weapons on one side (reguardless of meta or not, quite a lot of skilled players do not all prefer to have a shield arm/ dead side). 95% of them have a laser vomit seal of aproval of ER meds and large pulse lasers, the acception being the Arctic cheetah at 6 small lasers... etc...
Some of these mechs have a gauss rifle...

Now, I do not mind seeing an energy hunchback if it isn't for the fact literally ALL the clan trials are laser boats right now.

I keep trying to get people to play clans but they find it hard to believe that a clan mech can be good at LRM's, (contendors: Highlander IIC, Warhawk, Mad Dog, Stormcrow, Kitfox, Adder). Or that there are 'Mechs that can handle well with UAC 5's (Hellbringer, Direwolf, Stormcrow). Or a mech can run SRM's, streaks, the other lasers rarely being used, ER PPC's, MG's, UAC 2's, 20's, LBX's, etc.

The worst part is that all these trial 'mechs atm is that they are trying to min max cheese to the current meta and as soon as that meta shifts atm 100% of the clan trials would just slump over and can't stand up straight. some of them may fair better then others but lets look at all the IS meta trials before these redos and stuff...
I personally think a trial 'Mech should priorities on what makes it what it is instead of trying to use a different shape cookie cutter on the same doe.

But if people insist this is the way forward then go ahead I guess. I'll be here saving my builds for the clan trial redo in 3 months.

[Not A Real RAbbi]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3f6c1367728d6b3

[Krivvan]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4bb95d18106d70e

Classic HBK-IIC-A with 3xcLPL

Edited by Krivvan, 08 July 2016 - 05:18 PM.

[Nurph]

UAC 20/4 tons ammo, 2 ER-ML, 2 Flamers, XL 275, 4 Jumpjets, TC 1
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d95942c2e442401

Edited by Nurph, 08 July 2016 - 05:29 PM.

[Krivvan]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...05611b6b111c41f

HBK-IIC-A with 2xcLPL and 6xcERML

Edited by Krivvan, 08 July 2016 - 05:18 PM.

[JayKay17]

my favorite

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b915fb2f11cc9d7

or this one

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cfa7cb27a8eecc2

Edited by JayKay17, 08 July 2016 - 05:38 PM.

[Marmon Rzohr]

BlackhawkSC, on 08 July 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

HBK-IIC-A laser vomit

2xLPL 4xERML, 19 DHS, XL 275, FF/Endo, single JJ and TC1

I'd change it up a bit to get all the weapons in the OP ST mounts.

Alt. Laser Vomit

Krivvan, on 08 July 2016 - 05:18 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...05611b6b111c41f

HBK-IIC-A with 2xcLPL and 6xcERML

That is one manly build.

Edited by Marmon Rzohr, 08 July 2016 - 05:37 PM.