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Mc's - What Are They Worth - A Quick Peek On Hero Mechs


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#1 Terror Teddy

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:21 AM

Ok, after getting curious I started looking and comparing prices:

Warthunder: 100USD = 21700 Golden Eagles
MWO: 100USD = 25000 MC
Planetside 2: 100USD= 10000 Station Cash
WoT: 100USD= 25000 Gold

So, what DO we get for shelling out 100USD for 25K?

Well, average cost per USD is 250MC

TIME Breakdown with 100USD
250 MC for 1 day is about 1 USD/Day
216 MC for 3 days is about 0,85 USD/day
178 MC for 7 days is about 0,7 USD/day

I cant see the higher tiers but if that is relatively linear then premium gets cheap.

Compare this to buying the LEAST MC at 1250MC for 7USD. Then you get 178,5MC per USD

which is about 30% less.

So if one buys the least MC and pays per day it becoms about 60% more expensive.

Now, lets compare mech prices (averages) to MC.

Mech pricing (MC)not counting XL engines
25 ton mech is 680-720 (700)
50 ton mech is 1440-1480 (1460)
75 ton mech is about 2350-2550 (2450)(medium between 70 and 80 tonnes)
100 ton mech is about 4000-5500 (4750)

Mech prices in C-Bills (Mil)
25 ton is about 1,6 to 1,7 (1,65)
50 ton is about 3,5 to 3,8 (3,65)
75 ton is about 5,85 to 6,4 (6,125)
100 ton is about 9,3 to 10,5 (9,9)

Now we try and convert that into MC pricing.
25 tonnes is about 2357 C-Bills per MC
50 tonnes is about 2500 c-bills per MC
75 tonnes is about 2500 c-bills per MC
100 tonnes is about 2084 c-bills per MC

So the average 1 MC is about 2360 C-Bills.

Let's now breakdown the Hero mechs and compare what we GET for what we shell out for
them.

Hero mech values in C-Bills
Pretty Baby: 14 160 000
Death Knell: 4 425 000
Yen-Lo-Wang: 8 850 000
Fang/Flame: 10 620 000
Ilya Muromet:12 390 000

I have a few of them and the cash bonus is nice but the pricing is neither linear or
even sensible compared to what I COULD get - I'm starting to wonder if the Cash bonus
would be the percentage in cost of an equivalent mech.

Death Knell:
The COM-1B comes close with 3 energy mounts but smaller engine at 1,7 mil but we also
need to add 1,5 mil in heatsinks so that lands us at 3,2 of it's value of 4,2

Result: Hero variant 25% more expensive

Pretty Baby:
This one gets an XL engine more powerful than the AWS-9M (340) but LOOSE 3 entire energy
mounts and has 1 less heatsinks. Cost: 3,5 Mil more.

Result: 20% more expensive but I doubt the loss of 3 energy mounts are worth it.

Yen-Lo_Wang:
Standard centurion CN9-A seems closest and the Wang loose:
-3 missile mounts
+1 ballistic mount
+1 Module

Poor trade off for the 5,1 MILLION difference in cost. 41% price difference. What were
they thinking when they cobbled together this guy? At least take half of that and add
double heat sinks or at least Endo-Steel. For it's price you might as well take a
standard centurion, spend 5,1 MILLION or less and upgrade the CN9-A into something
superior. The cash bonus does not make up for the limitations.

Ilya Muromet:
The CTF-3D seems close but switch 1 energy mount for a ballistic. The Ilya dumps the
JJ's and they both have XL engine.

Result: 20% more expensive which is not unreasonable for a hero mech.

Well, I and other who has the Yen-Lo-Wang can argue ourselves blue that the Wang have
better tactical options than the hunchback but there is no mistake that it is *******
CRIPPLED compared to you know - OTHER CENTURIONS like the CN9-A by just looking at what one PAYS for it.

Edited by Terror Teddy, 05 March 2013 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:33 AM

I'd like to point out a few things about your price comparisons.

1. Anyone interested in planetside 2 bought points during the triple station cash event. On top of this the Walmart card gave you extra points. Normally 15$= 1500 points. The walmart card gave you 500 extra points. So for 30$ you could have cashed in on 12,000 points. On top of this the game sells lots of items at 50% off daily. If you are patient and willing to wait to buy a few things on sale you can get items in game at effectively 1/12th the normal price. You can also get I think something like 140 SC for free (yea it won't do much but you get some free).

2. World of tanks gave out more than $300,000 worth of gold to about 5 clans. Yes you can't do that anymore..... but they took the money and anyone who milked that will never need gold again. You might have gotten a slice if you were in a good clan for a while (not necessarily one of the major land holders). And now you can buy gold ammo with in game currency......

3. War thunder is crazy in that it's incredibly pay to win and as such I don't think it really compares well. It's got many of the same problems as WoT in that Russian vehicles are silly OP. If you don't believe that I'd like to show you a replay of mine where I play a tier 6-7 game with only tier 0-2 Russian planes and outscore everyone (with only 5 planes). War thunder gives you 250 free "gold" (eagles).


Let's also talk about what you need to buy for each of these games. If you buy no hero mechs then you can eventually get everything in MWO... it will just take longer without premium.

You could in theory play PS2 without spending money but you're gonna get frustrated because the advancement is horrendously slow. Luckily every day the game gives you a small allowance of XP to spend. A year of not playing probably amounts to about one or two weeks of playing several hours a night. It's a nice boost but won't get you anywhere.

World of tanks.... well unless you are in the top 10-20% of players you can't play without premium. Unless you are in the top 2-5% you're not going to have many tanks unless you have premium and or a premium tank. Let's also not forget that holding land that gives gold costs money for gold consumables.

War thunder is a money sink of epic proportions. You can buy extra garage slots for planes and take more into battle than the next guy on the list. You can only buy these with $$$ not in game credits. To get the most out of your plane you have to spend $$$ to Ace the crew. You can pay money to make your crews better than what most people have if you don't want to wait and build them over time. You can however level up your rank (letting you get to top tier) with just a bit of skill and maybe a few friends. If you need in game cash you can make tons with the OP russian tier 0-2 planes.





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