Alexander Steel, on 19 February 2014 - 07:15 AM, said:
I would have thought that somebody who flies a house Liao flag would have at least enjoyed the first part of the Jihad, in that the reason that the Wobbies have a complete melt down is...
1. They believe it's their destiny to save the IS from the Clans.
2. They feel this will happen while the Star League is still around.
3. When they Star League falls apart they go insane and decide screw it, we'll destroy everything.
So why is this funny if you are a Liao fan? Because you can put all the blame on Victor Steiner-Davion.
He defeated the clans. He waged a civil war against his sister.
1. If the Clans were still invading the IS, the Star League wouldn't have broken up.
2. The only reason House Davion and House Steiner vote to pull out of the Star League is because their realms are too bankrupt after fighting the civil war.
3. If Comstar had put down the Wobbies when they first took Terra ((on VSD and Fochts belief that the Wobbies would guard Terra as well as anybody against the clans)) they never would have had the power to wage the Jihad.
You know if you are going to spin stuff.
Well, realiticall the Star League was a puff of wind. A political outcome. It had no drive, no purpose. It just kinda "fell" into being and "fell" out just as quickly.
Star League was sham imo, believable but a sham. No one really wanted it, no one really supported it. Clan Invasion or not it had a tenure as long as the first crisis.
Marik was already committed to supplying the war effort before Star League for nothing more noble than the C-Bills. Kurita was always going to fight them, same as Steiner. Liao was never going to fight them and they sent what, 3 regiment (2 of them half regimetns) to the war effort. Yay yay, they were clearly engaged in defeating the threat right
Davion well could have gone either way. But honestly as long as they were at truce with Steiner they just didnl;t matter, Lyrans had WIE and Kell Hounds already being a buffer.
So all this leads me to the path that SL or no SL, it would have been the same, marginal troop changes, but same same.
VSD was ok as warriors go, I'll give him that. But he got pretty 'preferential' treatment from the novels. He couldn;t do too much wrong. Which always irks me, I like my hero's to have real faults. To screw up and learn cause thats human.
Victor never had anything go badly for him on the field (unless you count the WIE guys taking it to him in a simulator) which in my mind kinda weakens him. I know that people make mistakes and if he didn;t in lore, that means someone covered for him, (staff, etc) which is where I kinda think, is he really as good as the books say or is it the silent 'kingmaker' behind the scenes holding the facade afloat.
WOB to me is just a spin angle to sell more books. Although I was impressed with the 'Real' thomas ebing their head. I did not see that one coming but it makes perfect sense.
I guess the thing about the BT universe that I keep kicking over is that its rarely new people. Its the same families floating around with the next 'descedant' being the next extreme (hero or villian). Rarely does someone outside the established lore step up and inject some new blood.
Where's the Halas son who takes on parliment on behalf of the CG.
Why in 3040 were 3 of 5 warlords plotting against Takashi (cause you know he just saved the realm from the Fed com War machine and yet his warlords all wanted to go their own ways as indepence seemed a good idea??? WTF??)
They take a pretty narrow road often.
Devlin Stone was about the first 'new' major character I can think of..
Heck even the Clans its all, JF, CW, GB oh and ummmmm, these other 12 clans had this minor impact on the big guys.
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