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[PEEFsmash]

So I had broken the 1800 barrier a few matches before.



My buddy who was watching my progress says to me..."did you just lose a point? We just talked about how you got 1800!" I took a screenshot of the 1800, then hit refresh. Here was the result...



I have no possible explanation for this, but I sure hope I get one!

Edited by PEEFsmash, 22 June 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[Sephlock]

Could it be at all related to the Gremlins that are periodically running across the servers, painting everything white?

[Krivvan]

Didn't have it happen to me, but I did see it happen to PEEFsmash.

I don't expect that there's any major problem, but it would be nice to know if there is a chance that there's a greater problem at work.

[Trufast]

It's HSR! But yea, actually noticed you lost a point too. 1800 was so nice and clean.

[Torage]

maybe because of damage he had some odd fraction for his score and refreshing the page rounded it differently?

still not a lot of making of the sense but that's all i can think of.

[PEEFsmash]

Torage, on 22 June 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

maybe because of damage he had some odd fraction for his score and refreshing the page rounded it differently?

still not a lot of making of the sense but that's all i can think of.

I had thought about that, but in order for that to be the case, they would have to have changed their rounding scheme/formula mid-tournament...

[Ghogiel]

They nerfed PEEF.

[weevil]

Does scoring actually work? Am I misreading the formula?

The leader boards seem awfully low, compared to the scoring formula. Even assuming a pretty mediocre performance of getting 150 pts of damage, 0 team damage, 0 kills and 2 assists per match, if that player played enough matches that they won and survived 10 matches (even just by being carried by the team) the score would be:

20 x 10 = 200 (wins)
20 x 10 = 200 (survived)
15 x 10 = 150 (assists)
150 x 10 = 1500 (damage)
+30 (the 30 bonus. I think it's per match, but even assuming it's not)

= 2080pts. Which is higher than anything on the leaderboard ATM.

[Trogdor469]

I have a 137 and do not know why....I have had several 900+ damage matches + a match with 7 kills. Not really sure how this scoring works.

[Mr Murder Longshanks]

I've been watching my score not move for over an hour now.

[PEEFsmash]

weevil, on 22 June 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Does scoring actually work? Am I misreading the formula?

The leader boards seem awfully low, compared to the scoring formula. Even assuming a pretty mediocre performance of getting 150 pts of damage, 0 team damage, 0 kills and 2 assists per match, if that player played enough matches that they won and survived 10 matches (even just by being carried by the team) the score would be:

20 x 10 = 200 (wins)
20 x 10 = 200 (survived)
15 x 10 = 150 (assists)
150 x 10 = 1500 (damage)
+30 (the 30 bonus. I think it's per match, but even assuming it's not)

= 2080pts. Which is higher than anything on the leaderboard ATM.

That +30 (which you noticed is strange) is actually a divided by 30. Increase the size of the image and look closely!

[Elspath]

could be worse, i cant even gain points sense last night. i done a few better games then what i did and my points refuse to go up. 10 best isent working for me.... i was 8th last night now im 25th and i cant gain 1 point to save my life. even did a match with 800+ damage and a score of 112 and no point change

[LauLiao]

weevil, on 22 June 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Does scoring actually work? Am I misreading the formula?

The leader boards seem awfully low, compared to the scoring formula. Even assuming a pretty mediocre performance of getting 150 pts of damage, 0 team damage, 0 kills and 2 assists per match, if that player played enough matches that they won and survived 10 matches (even just by being carried by the team) the score would be:

20 x 10 = 200 (wins)
20 x 10 = 200 (survived)
15 x 10 = 150 (assists)
150 x 10 = 1500 (damage)
+30 (the 30 bonus. I think it's per match, but even assuming it's not)

= 2080pts. Which is higher than anything on the leaderboard ATM.

Take out the +30, that's an error. And in order to get 150 points of damage per match you'd have to be doing 4500 pts of damage, since damage is DIVIDED by 30. A more reasonable number for damage would be closer to 15 per round, not 150. Also, any team damage is removed from your score as well.

So for an 8-kill, survive win you're looking at 200 pts a match plus whatever the damage number is (assume something in the 30 range for 8 kills) and you're looking at a "perfect" score of around 2300.

So Peef pushing 1800 in a light is pretty darn impressive.

Edited by LauLiao, 22 June 2013 - 01:45 PM.

[LauLiao]

Elspath, on 22 June 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

could be worse, i cant even gain points sense last night. i done a few better games then what i did and my points refuse to go up. 10 best isent working for me.... i was 8th last night now im 25th and i cant gain 1 point to save my life. even did a match with 800+ damage and a score of 112 and no point change

Damage is only one part of the equasion. Are you also factoring in Kills and Assists? Wins? Survival? To be honest, 112 points for a match is on the low end, and probably not good enough to crack your top 10.

[weevil]

PEEFsmash, on 22 June 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

That +30 (which you noticed is strange) is actually a divided by 30. Increase the size of the image and look closely!

Ah, that makes much more sense.Crappy font makes the division look a lot like addition

[PEEFsmash]

LauLiao, on 22 June 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Damage is only one part of the equasion. Are you also factoring in Kills and Assists? Wins? Survival? To be honest, 112 points for a match is on the low end, and probably not good enough to crack your top 10.

Yep, 10 112pt games would put you miles and miles off the leaderboard. You need to be averaging 170pts or so over 10 games to get on the board at all now.

[Zordicron]

hahaha, this scoring is SO FUBAR.
I ran 2 matches with Jagermech. First match, 3 kils, 2 assists, just shy of 500 dmg, survive, win.
Second match, Team full of MAXIMUM DERP. Frozen city. other team had 4 LRM boats. I got wrecked, after half the team decided to charge over the ridge into cloud of death. Really bad score, like 0 kills, 0 assist(team got massacred lol) 130 dmg or something, lose, dead.

Current score on leaderboard, 2 matches, and one was about as bad as possible: 488.

so this talk about a good match being like 150-200? Wow. I better get my other 8 games in quick, I will walk away with this no prob!

Assault! I ran 3 matches with my Awesome 8R missile boat LURMPOCKOLYPSE NOW. 3 matches, 3 wins, died in the last one, lived first two, like 1200 dmg 5 kills 9 assists between the 3.
Current score on assault leaderboard, after 3 pretty decent matches: 400.

So, how is it, with a whole extra match, and one of the jager ones a total bomb, that my Asault score is 88 under the jager?

IMO, it is part of the rampant hit detection bugs in game. Some how, my spotty at best hit detection with LRM is ruining my Awesome scores, OR LOL FUBAR on the jager scores. I kind of think a little of both, err, well prolly a lot on the jager lol.

Anyway, the whole shin dig feels pretty messed up, and I was just going to run a few matches in a couple catagories just to see how the scoring worked. Well, it doesnt work far as i can tell.

[OneEyed Jack]

weevil, on 22 June 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

Does scoring actually work? Am I misreading the formula?

The leader boards seem awfully low, compared to the scoring formula. Even assuming a pretty mediocre performance of getting 150 pts of damage, 0 team damage, 0 kills and 2 assists per match, if that player played enough matches that they won and survived 10 matches (even just by being carried by the team) the score would be:

20 x 10 = 200 (wins)
20 x 10 = 200 (survived)
15 x 10 = 150 (assists)
150 x 10 = 1500 (damage)
+30 (the 30 bonus. I think it's per match, but even assuming it's not)

= 2080pts. Which is higher than anything on the leaderboard ATM.

Now, it's been awhile since I was in school, but if I recall...

Quote

(Damage Done – Team Damage) ÷ 30

... means that your first subtract your entire team's damage from your own, then divide by 30. Which translates to mean that, unless your team is truly bad, and you manage to completely carry the lot of them, the damage part of your score is going to be a negative number.

If the rest of your team averages 150 damage each, and you score 1000 damage
(1000 - (150 * 7)) / 30 or
(1000 - 1050) / 30 or
-50 / 30 = -1.66

[armyof1]

OneEyed Jack, on 23 June 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Now, it's been awhile since I was in school, but if I recall...

... means that your first subtract your entire team's damage from your own, then divide by 30. Which translates to mean that, unless your team is truly bad, and you manage to completely carry the lot of them, the damage part of your score is going to be a negative number.

If the rest of your team averages 150 damage each, and you score 1000 damage
(1000 - (150 * 7)) / 30 or
(1000 - 1050) / 30 or
-50 / 30 = -1.66

I'm pretty sure team damage means the damage you do to your team-mates, as in friendly fire. So you take your total damage done, subtract the friendly fire damage and then divide by 30.

Edited by armyof1, 23 June 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Dashwood Fox]

It happened to me twice as well. It was usually a difference of 1-3 points. I figure it's something to do with rounding decimals.

Edited by Dashwood Fox, 23 June 2013 - 07:50 PM.