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[Amaris the Usurper]

Turns out this is old news--see http://mwomercs.com/...rom-cbt-to-mwo/.

Per the TechManual (standard BattleTech construction rules),

• 375 standard weights 38.5 tons
  
• 375 XL weighs 38.5/2 tons, rounded up to the nearest half ton = 19.5 tons
  
• gyro weighs 375/100 tons, rounded up to the nearest whole ton = 4 tons
  
• cockpit weighs 3 tons
  
• therefore, the MWO engine weight should 19.5+4+3 = 26.5 tons, but in MechLab, the weight is 27.5 tons (same as a 380XL)

It will be impossible to construct the stock configurations of 75 ton mechs with 375XL engines (e.g., Mad Cat) in MWO if this remains unchanged.

Edited by Amaris the Usurper, 10 July 2013 - 09:34 AM.

[Deathlike]

I wouldn't worry about the Madcat, because we'll probably not get one at the current rate.

This should've been obvious from the start (there are other engines that don't follow the rules/criteria, but are not so obvious due to being rated < 200).

Edited by Deathlike, 10 July 2013 - 08:40 AM.

[Amaris the Usurper]

Deathlike, on 10 July 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:

This should've been obvious from the start (there are other engines that don't follow the rules/criteria, but are not so obvious due to being rated < 200).

Wrong. The only other engine that doesn't follow the rules is the 100XL, which would have a negative weight (1.5 base + 1 gyro + 3 cockpit - 6 external heat sinks = -0.5 tons, but it weighs 0.5 tons in MechLab--probably a deliberate choice). The remaining engines are in complete agreement with the TT rules. The 375XL weight is probably a data entry error.

[Deathlike]

Amaris the Usurper, on 10 July 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

Wrong. The only other engine that doesn't follow the rules is the 100XL, which would have a negative weight (1.5 base + 1 gyro + 3 cockpit - 6 external heat sinks = -0.5 tons, but it weighs 0.5 tons in MechLab--probably a deliberate choice). The remaining engines are in complete agreement with the TT rules. The 375XL weight is probably a data entry error.

Well, someone else argued it, but then again, I don't care since I try not buy to engines often due to cost.

375XL is the glaringly obvious error (which is why most people buy the 380XL). I also have a 370XL because of that error. I was planning to get a fast engine for the Cent-D, but skipped the 375XL for that reason alone.

Edited by Deathlike, 10 July 2013 - 09:19 AM.

[armyof1]

Just noticed this too when trying builds for Victors, XL370 is by far the better choice compared to XL375.

Edited by armyof1, 10 July 2013 - 10:43 AM.