$250 i7 4790K at Microcenter, in store Pickup only:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Full Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $907.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 17:10 EST-0500
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Mechwarrior Online Gaming Rigs $500-1000 (+/-~$100)
Started by Lord Letto, Oct 05 2014 06:27 PM
601 replies to this topic
#242
Posted 24 December 2014 - 02:19 PM
Catamount, on 22 December 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:
I would disagree, DV, with the idea that we're not biased to some degree, but we've all seen the data and it's conclusive.
I have an obvious pro-AMD bias, and you'll still see it in the fact that I don't put up Nvidia GPUs in builds I recommend, the 970 excepted for now (AMD's chips from mid 2013 just don't compete with Nvidia's from late 2014). I still realize that the CPU battle was won conclusively.
It honestly has been ever since Conroe. AMD only managed to hold their own with Phenom II because it was "good enough" (similar to Nehalem i5 performance, but without the awesome OCing) that they were able to price-cut and package deal their way to a compelling product. Even then, I truthfully still somewhat regret that I bought a 965BE instead of an i5-750.
Intel doesn't play this game better; Intel plays better, period. The 8350, in most situations, has a hard time matching i5s in real world software let alone i7s (there are like, two exceptions, and if you run those a lot fine get an 8350, but neither are games)
I have an obvious pro-AMD bias, and you'll still see it in the fact that I don't put up Nvidia GPUs in builds I recommend, the 970 excepted for now (AMD's chips from mid 2013 just don't compete with Nvidia's from late 2014). I still realize that the CPU battle was won conclusively.
It honestly has been ever since Conroe. AMD only managed to hold their own with Phenom II because it was "good enough" (similar to Nehalem i5 performance, but without the awesome OCing) that they were able to price-cut and package deal their way to a compelling product. Even then, I truthfully still somewhat regret that I bought a 965BE instead of an i5-750.
Intel doesn't play this game better; Intel plays better, period. The 8350, in most situations, has a hard time matching i5s in real world software let alone i7s (there are like, two exceptions, and if you run those a lot fine get an 8350, but neither are games)
I agree with almost 100% of what you have said here, and I would of also felt regret if I would of puchased a Phenom II 965 B.E. over a I5, however, I had my trusty Phenom II 940 B.E. and was able to OC the living you know what out of it and didn't purchase a 965 B.E. So to the point... I got a hell of a deal when I bought what I did.
Lord Letto, on 24 December 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:
$250 i7 4790K at Microcenter, in store Pickup only:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Full Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $907.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 17:10 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Full Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $907.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-24 17:10 EST-0500
Got to love Micro center...... I feel like a crack head in a crack store every time I walk into the West side store
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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:07 PM
Intel Friday
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $657.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:37 EST-0500
Base Total: $725.90
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $657.71
Tom's likes the case? So be it. Just watch out for the CPU cooler, with a listed max of 145mm. But then get a load of that cooler: Right-sized, Nickle plated, and comes with the Teh Mythical Compound!
And the PSU is just at a silly price, so I buy it …
There's, like, and extra $10 in the HDD, and another $33 in the card, you could pull out if you really wanted to, but, ya' know …
Oops! $5 moar into the card, so that it fits in the damn case! :-]
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $657.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:37 EST-0500
Base Total: $725.90
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $657.71
Tom's likes the case? So be it. Just watch out for the CPU cooler, with a listed max of 145mm. But then get a load of that cooler: Right-sized, Nickle plated, and comes with the Teh Mythical Compound!
And the PSU is just at a silly price, so I buy it …
There's, like, and extra $10 in the HDD, and another $33 in the card, you could pull out if you really wanted to, but, ya' know …
Oops! $5 moar into the card, so that it fits in the damn case! :-]
Edited by Goose, 10 January 2015 - 02:12 PM.
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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:36 PM
And before I forget again, AMD
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC DIY-5823BK (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $714.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:34 EST-0500
Base Total: $762.91
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$50.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $714.72
Lorded says you can get away with that Mobo? Done.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC DIY-5823BK (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $714.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:34 EST-0500
Base Total: $762.91
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$50.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $714.72
Lorded says you can get away with that Mobo? Done.
Edited by Goose, 10 January 2015 - 02:17 PM.
#246
Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:52 PM
Goose, on 26 December 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:
And before I forget again, AMD
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $714.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:34 EST-0500
Base Total: $762.91
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$50.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $714.72
Lorded says you can get away with that Mobo? Done.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($86.80 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $714.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-26 18:34 EST-0500
Base Total: $762.91
Promo Discounts: -$6.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$50.00
Shipping: $7.81
Total: $714.72
Lorded says you can get away with that Mobo? Done.
Once again.... why even recommend the FX-8370E for $194 dollars when one can get the FX-8350 for only $164? With the money saved it could be used to get a better 990FX board easy. Better hardware, same of cheaper cost.
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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:06 AM
Heres my attemp @ a 1000$ budget to upgrade the system you tried to upgrade that is now bottleneck'd by your dated CPU.....ddr2 and possible old PSU
needing only :
Ram
CPU
Cooler
PSU
Case
Fans
SSD
CPU
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.98 $234.98 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
CPU Cooler
Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $74.99 FREE $74.99 NCIX
Remove
Buy
Motherboard
Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $189.25 $189.25 Vuugo
Remove
Buy
Memory
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $83.94 $83.94 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Add Additional Memory Storage
A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.89 $89.89 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Add Additional Storage Video Card Choose A Video Card Case
BitFenix Ghost (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $88.47 $88.47 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Power Supply
SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $139.99 -$20.00 $9.99 $129.98 Newegg Canada
Remove
Buy
+ $20 off w/ promo code CEMCWHHA28, ends 1/4/15 Optical Drive Choose An Optical Drive Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $98.98 $98.98 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Case Fan
Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans $34.99 $34.99 Memory Express
Remove
Buy
Expansion Cards / Networking
Add Expansion Cards / Networking ...
Sound Cards, Wired Network Adapters, Wireless Network Adapters
Displays
Add Displays ...
All-In-One Monitors/Chassis, Monitors
Peripherals
Add Peripherals ...
Headphones, Keyboards, Mice, Speakers
Accessories / Other
Add Accessories / Other ...
Case Fans, Fan Controllers, Thermal Compound
Custom Add Custom Part Base Total: $1035.48 Promo Discounts: -$20.00 Shipping: $9.99 Total: $1025.47
assuming you have purchased a GPU more powerful than a 760 GTX(used 670,680,7970,)or a new shiny 970 or 980 this will be your remedy.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/vyzwHx
needing only :
Ram
CPU
Cooler
PSU
Case
Fans
SSD
CPU
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.98 $234.98 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
CPU Cooler
Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $74.99 FREE $74.99 NCIX
Remove
Buy
Motherboard
Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $189.25 $189.25 Vuugo
Remove
Buy
Memory
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $83.94 $83.94 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Add Additional Memory Storage
A-Data Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.89 $89.89 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Add Additional Storage Video Card Choose A Video Card Case
BitFenix Ghost (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $88.47 $88.47 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Power Supply
SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $139.99 -$20.00 $9.99 $129.98 Newegg Canada
Remove
Buy
+ $20 off w/ promo code CEMCWHHA28, ends 1/4/15 Optical Drive Choose An Optical Drive Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $98.98 $98.98 DirectCanada
Remove
Buy
Case Fan
Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans $34.99 $34.99 Memory Express
Remove
Buy
Expansion Cards / Networking
Add Expansion Cards / Networking ...
Sound Cards, Wired Network Adapters, Wireless Network Adapters
Displays
Add Displays ...
All-In-One Monitors/Chassis, Monitors
Peripherals
Add Peripherals ...
Headphones, Keyboards, Mice, Speakers
Accessories / Other
Add Accessories / Other ...
Case Fans, Fan Controllers, Thermal Compound
Custom Add Custom Part Base Total: $1035.48 Promo Discounts: -$20.00 Shipping: $9.99 Total: $1025.47
assuming you have purchased a GPU more powerful than a 760 GTX(used 670,680,7970,)or a new shiny 970 or 980 this will be your remedy.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/vyzwHx
Edited by Smokeyjedi, 31 December 2014 - 07:07 AM.
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Posted 01 January 2015 - 11:31 PM
Intel New Year
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $628.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-02 02:24 EST-0500
Base Total: $686.91
Promo Discounts: -$7.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$55.00
Shipping: $3.97
Total: $638.81
Small'n cheap. I'm relying on the Hardware Secrets report of pulling 36A out of the two +12V rails to meet my need of 33.1 for this build, but it gets me a Bronze for only $5 extra.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 48 CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Other: DIYPC M98-R ($29.99)
Total: $628.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-02 02:24 EST-0500
Base Total: $686.91
Promo Discounts: -$7.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$55.00
Shipping: $3.97
Total: $638.81
Small'n cheap. I'm relying on the Hardware Secrets report of pulling 36A out of the two +12V rails to meet my need of 33.1 for this build, but it gets me a Bronze for only $5 extra.
Edited by Goose, 10 January 2015 - 02:11 PM.
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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:23 AM
AMD New Year
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 4 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.78 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.59 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $682.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-02 04:21 EST-0500
Base Total: $757.29
Promo Discounts: -$17.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$60.00
Shipping: $1.99
Total: $682.28
Now I really am cheating: The +12V rail is good for 43A, but I need 43.6. You can spend $5 moar and get an EVGA 600B, losing the Gold+ ratting, or an extra $10 for a Capstone-750, which is also Gold+. The gamble here is the overclock comes up short, reducing the amperage needed. Or you just get the Capstone, and add some fans and HDDs later …
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 4 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.78 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.59 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $682.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-02 04:21 EST-0500
Base Total: $757.29
Promo Discounts: -$17.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$60.00
Shipping: $1.99
Total: $682.28
Now I really am cheating: The +12V rail is good for 43A, but I need 43.6. You can spend $5 moar and get an EVGA 600B, losing the Gold+ ratting, or an extra $10 for a Capstone-750, which is also Gold+. The gamble here is the overclock comes up short, reducing the amperage needed. Or you just get the Capstone, and add some fans and HDDs later …
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Posted 02 January 2015 - 10:33 AM
Tried to go for a Yellow Color Scheme, Hit Max budget with everything except aftermarket cooler & OS:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 MPOWER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($93.99 @ Directron)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290X 4GB LIGHTNING Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC Mirage-D1-Y ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.78 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1095.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-02 13:33 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 MPOWER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($93.99 @ Directron)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290X 4GB LIGHTNING Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC Mirage-D1-Y ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.78 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1095.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Posted 06 January 2015 - 07:04 PM
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 650 Liquid CPU Cooler ($37.49 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.55 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PROFESSIONAL ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1098.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-06 22:04 EST-0500
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 650 Liquid CPU Cooler ($37.49 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.55 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PROFESSIONAL ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1098.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-06 22:04 EST-0500
#255
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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:46 PM
Intel Friday
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($218.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 65 Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card ($180.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Masscool FD12025B1H3/4 81.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: Masscool FD12025B1H3/4 81.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ Directron)
Total: $816.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-09 23:43 EST-0500
Base Total: $896.88
Promo Discounts: -$9.99
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Total: $816.89
Spent a buck, and the PSU went from 46A to 62 on the 12V rail, stayed Bronze, and went modular.
Got some intake fans for this fool case: Should be enough cooling …
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($218.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Prolimatech Basic 65 Ball Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card ($180.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Masscool FD12025B1H3/4 81.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ Directron)
Case Fan: Masscool FD12025B1H3/4 81.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($4.99 @ Directron)
Total: $816.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-09 23:43 EST-0500
Base Total: $896.88
Promo Discounts: -$9.99
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Total: $816.89
Spent a buck, and the PSU went from 46A to 62 on the 12V rail, stayed Bronze, and went modular.
Got some intake fans for this fool case: Should be enough cooling …
#256
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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:37 PM
First stop grilling your cool hardware like 400$ Video Cards or 300$ CPUs with 19.99$ or even 39,99$ power supplys!
Now for the around 1k $ Request:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 10 500W ATX 12V 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply SilentWings 3 Fan Ultra Silent ($109.90) - This is a power supply!!! LEARN IT don't buy crap!
Total: $1097.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:42 EST-0500
+ A Cooler, that is a cooler: http://www.play3r.ne...-brocken-eco/9/ or http://www.techspot....malaya-2.97937/ - if you need it go for shipping out of germany - the Brocken ECO is pretty much all you need for the no ocable Xeon. IF you come from US coolers get a EKL or be Quite Cooler you will hear ans see what cooling and no noise is and you will see that a cooller don't fall of your motherboard after 3 years, because the plastic pins hardend and break.
So it will be around 1.150$ US Dollar
recommand upgrades:
Zotac graphic card changed to a Zotac 970 Extreme AMP! for easy 1500+MHz coreclock oc
So this is a a top RIG:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 4GB AMP! Extreme Edition Video Card ($589.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ NCIX US) - This is a power supply!!! LEARN IT don't buy crap!
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Other: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Silentwings CPU Cooler ($89.90)
Total: $1699.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:59 EST-0500
Now for the around 1k $ Request:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 10 500W ATX 12V 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply SilentWings 3 Fan Ultra Silent ($109.90) - This is a power supply!!! LEARN IT don't buy crap!
Total: $1097.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:42 EST-0500
+ A Cooler, that is a cooler: http://www.play3r.ne...-brocken-eco/9/ or http://www.techspot....malaya-2.97937/ - if you need it go for shipping out of germany - the Brocken ECO is pretty much all you need for the no ocable Xeon. IF you come from US coolers get a EKL or be Quite Cooler you will hear ans see what cooling and no noise is and you will see that a cooller don't fall of your motherboard after 3 years, because the plastic pins hardend and break.
So it will be around 1.150$ US Dollar
recommand upgrades:
Zotac graphic card changed to a Zotac 970 Extreme AMP! for easy 1500+MHz coreclock oc
So this is a a top RIG:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.75 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($138.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 4GB AMP! Extreme Edition Video Card ($589.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ NCIX US) - This is a power supply!!! LEARN IT don't buy crap!
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Other: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Silentwings CPU Cooler ($89.90)
Total: $1699.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 00:59 EST-0500
Edited by Kuritaclan, 10 January 2015 - 01:34 AM.
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 01:03 PM
Some fine rigs, Kurita, but if I might nitpick:
Those are some damn expensive power supplies, especially for non-OCing rigs at that price point. I'm a little dubious. Who even makes them? And since there are far cheaper power supplies with the same efficiency from Seasonic, Corsair and probably a half dozen others, what makes them worth $100-$150?
The Straight Power 10 does not outperform the Seasonic G Series 550W, which is $25 cheaper. The Seasonic unit has very slightly inferior voltage regulation, but also only half the ripple of the Be Quiet! PSU. I would consider that overkill, too. There's just no tangible benefit to it. There are cheaper 80PLUS gold units still that would still power the machine identically, and silver and bronze units for less still that would also power it.
There's buying cheap, say throwing a Diablotek PhD into a computer, and then there's just plain avoiding taking off and nuking it from orbit - sometimes it's not the only way to be sure
Also, why not WD Caviar Blacks on the storage? Those SSDs are interesting for their pricing, but I wonder if they're worth the saved $20 or so vs the significantly faster 850 EVO. Anand had the 850s going like 20-25% faster, or more, in the heavier workloads.
Those are some damn expensive power supplies, especially for non-OCing rigs at that price point. I'm a little dubious. Who even makes them? And since there are far cheaper power supplies with the same efficiency from Seasonic, Corsair and probably a half dozen others, what makes them worth $100-$150?
The Straight Power 10 does not outperform the Seasonic G Series 550W, which is $25 cheaper. The Seasonic unit has very slightly inferior voltage regulation, but also only half the ripple of the Be Quiet! PSU. I would consider that overkill, too. There's just no tangible benefit to it. There are cheaper 80PLUS gold units still that would still power the machine identically, and silver and bronze units for less still that would also power it.
There's buying cheap, say throwing a Diablotek PhD into a computer, and then there's just plain avoiding taking off and nuking it from orbit - sometimes it's not the only way to be sure
Also, why not WD Caviar Blacks on the storage? Those SSDs are interesting for their pricing, but I wonder if they're worth the saved $20 or so vs the significantly faster 850 EVO. Anand had the 850s going like 20-25% faster, or more, in the heavier workloads.
Edited by Catamount, 10 January 2015 - 01:47 PM.
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 01:56 PM
AMD Saturday
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($184.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright TRUE Spirit 120M(BW) Rev.A 46.2 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($70.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Antec SpotCool ($15.00)
Total: $783.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 16:45 EST-0500
Base Total: $815.22
Promo Discounts: -$12.49
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00
Shipping: $0.99
Total: $783.72
Tried to run two experiments, but one of 'em blew up: Turns out there are no smaller-than ATX mobos for the "bigger" AMD chipsets.
I spent ~$12 extra for that slower GTX 760 over the cross-flow R9 280 I used used yesterday, so I could see how much smaller a PSU I'd wind up with, and it amounted to $11.5 in savings for 30W/ 6.3A …
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-8370E 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor ($184.29 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright TRUE Spirit 120M(BW) Rev.A 46.2 CFM CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($70.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Antec SpotCool ($15.00)
Total: $783.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-10 16:45 EST-0500
Base Total: $815.22
Promo Discounts: -$12.49
Mail-in Rebates: -$20.00
Shipping: $0.99
Total: $783.72
Tried to run two experiments, but one of 'em blew up: Turns out there are no smaller-than ATX mobos for the "bigger" AMD chipsets.
I spent ~$12 extra for that slower GTX 760 over the cross-flow R9 280 I used used yesterday, so I could see how much smaller a PSU I'd wind up with, and it amounted to $11.5 in savings for 30W/ 6.3A …
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:09 PM
Catamount, on 10 January 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:
Some fine rigs, Kurita, but if I might nitpick:
Those are some damn expensive power supplies, especially for non-OCing rigs at that price point. I'm a little dubious. Who even makes them? And since there are far cheaper power supplies with the same efficiency from Seasonic, Corsair and probably a half dozen others, what makes them worth $100-$150?
The Straight Power 10 does not outperform the Seasonic G Series 550W, which is $25 cheaper. The Seasonic unit has very slightly inferior voltage regulation, but also only half the ripple of the Be Quiet! PSU. I would consider that overkill, too. There's just no tangible benefit to it. There are cheaper 80PLUS gold units still that would still power the machine identically, and silver and bronze units for less still that would also power it.
Those are some damn expensive power supplies, especially for non-OCing rigs at that price point. I'm a little dubious. Who even makes them? And since there are far cheaper power supplies with the same efficiency from Seasonic, Corsair and probably a half dozen others, what makes them worth $100-$150?
The Straight Power 10 does not outperform the Seasonic G Series 550W, which is $25 cheaper. The Seasonic unit has very slightly inferior voltage regulation, but also only half the ripple of the Be Quiet! PSU. I would consider that overkill, too. There's just no tangible benefit to it. There are cheaper 80PLUS gold units still that would still power the machine identically, and silver and bronze units for less still that would also power it.
The Sesonic 550W is a good power supply (circuit) no question but produce more noice than the new generation of be Quite NTs with Silent Wing 3 Fans built in. If you wanna name it they are silent now (i have gone all they way with be Quite Silent Wing 1 in the old power supplys were quite, the silent Wing 2s like in the P10, SP7,E9 are nearly silent, but the new generation is truely silent - Some years back we all wanted quite rigs, now we are chasing for silent ones xD - perhaps SSD do a thing too, Asus Strix Graphic card series). Had a couple other power supplys too, and most of them arn't good. And btw i think i have linked the one with cable managment. There is also a SP10 Version without cm this should be cheaper. Those be Quite power supplys are expensiv because, german engineering isn't cheap and they are reimport from germany to usa $ to € exchange - also they have long warrantys - in germany for example you have additional 1 year 24hours @ home instant exchange. This service will also up the costs.
For a non oc built you might also go for a power supply like a Super Flower Golden Green HX 450W ATX 2.3 (SF-450P14XE (HX)) or the named Sea Sonic G-Series G-550 550W. But yeah think of the noice - By the way the power effiency standards like bronze, silver, gold or plat do not say much about the quality over all of a power supply. With the older Generation of Graphic cards GTX 7XX Series or the AMD 26X/27X/28X/29X you also could use cheaper power supplys. For example a be Quite E9 480W or a SP7 450W or if you wanna have best quality in the circuit and noise isn't a issue go for a Antec TruePower Classic TP-450C. For a 780/290 you might go for a better one like the Seasonic/SP10/P10.
be Quite is not the OEM of the NTs they only produce the fans, cases, cabels and say what the circuit has to be. Most beQuite power supplys are made by FSP or other Manufactures with good components (solid japaness capacitors etc.). Corsair don't have many good power supplys - only the Professional Series AXi (you only use such ones if you habe a double core graphic card like a 295x2 since it is single rail) and the CS Series Modular M 450W are okay.
Yeah you can ask why going for such an expensiv power supply? The reason is the new generation of Graphic cards - Maxwell technologie and cpus. Maxwell for example is very power efficient. This efficency is done by very short high peak load changes - The graphic card has a VRM to manage this - but it gives this noice of changing voltage/current into the power supply and if the power supply can not handle the fast power drops and increases you have them all over the other voltages if it isn't a DC-DC supply the 12V voltage is coupled with the 5V and 3,3V transformation - and this voltage goes up and down with the 12V swing forced by the graphic card and cpu - in the end this will damage you hdd's, ssd's and other componentes which don't have a vrm to filter with a pass the voltage swings.
Catamount, on 10 January 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:
There's buying cheap, say throwing a Diablotek PhD into a computer, and then there's just plain avoiding taking off and nuking it from orbit - sometimes it's not the only way to be sure
Yeah well saving on the false end like power supply when getting an expensiv gpu/cpu is everytime a risk. Some will do it anyway, but have to fear the concequences of those china crackers. Then I say: "told you so".
Catamount, on 10 January 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:
Also, why not WD Caviar Blacks on the storage?
Pretty simple WD Black,Red,Green,Purple, Rainbowcolor etc. are Marketingbullshit. HDD Storage are moving dynamic parts. They don't last forever. So Buy the cheapest storage in price/gb - i chased for 1TB - you may use 3TB to have better relations. The technologie is old, there are little to no differences between the Trademarks. You are only save of data lose, if you make backups. And therefore go for the cheap price to capacity, make raid and have exteranl hdds for another backup. HDDs don't need to be so fast anymore since ssd replaced them in normal workflow. They are only storage. One thought could be noise lvl. The seagate isn't that silent, but it isn't on most time (with a hdd saver function like the asrock boards have nowaday), since you work on a ssd.
Catamount, on 10 January 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:
Those SSDs are interesting for their pricing, but I wonder if they're worth the saved $20 or so vs the significantly faster 850 EVO. Anand had the 850s going like 20-25% faster, or more, in the heavier workloads.
Sata III restricts read speed by 600 MB/s you have with the data head pretty much on all given ssds around 525 to 550 MB/s - and those 20MB/s arn't anything you will notice in a consumer rig. You will see/feel the factor 3 to 4 speed up of an ssd over a hdd however. As long as you don't need to save gigabyte over gigabytes per day the half read rate of ~300MB/s are no isue and even fast enough to copy something from the web or the hdd you work with on the ssd. So the 20$ are ok. Also crucial has another manufacture technologie for their storage cells than samsung - they have a little bit longer lifetime, but this doesn't matter since a ssd will mostly work 7 to 10 years or even longer, till some of the sorage cells have to much write cycles. Only when you are a heavy user you might see this as a problem and then you may go for other products anyway.
If however you need fast write speed you might go for a samsung XP941 on a M.2 Ultra like on the Asrock Extreme 6 or on a couple of the new X99 Boards. Then you have write rate of up to over 1GB/s.
@ Goose your rig is okayish
i would recommand:
a better cooler for maxing the oc on the amd cpu
motherboar: MSI 970 Gaming - it is from 2014, have new components on it and a good vrm
graphic card: a 760 isn't a good graphic card performance/price related. In this performance class i would always go with a amd card. They also have more graphic memory what is limiting some games nowaday and could be more of aproblem in the future.
power supply: well what i said in this post.
Edited by Kuritaclan, 10 January 2015 - 07:49 PM.
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 07:51 PM
Given that Johnnyguru measured the PSUs you're recommending as being vastly more "noisy" than Seasonic's cheaper offerings (as in 50mv of 12v ripple for the Be Quiet! unit and 25 for the Seasonic unit, quite a stark difference), I would question that reasoning as justification Okay, they hit back in voltage regulation, but not by much, and frankly I'm more concerned about ripple anyways. Since you mention "noise" you are too it seems. By that standard, the Seasonic is a vastly superior PSU, and would be even if it was the same price, or more expensive. That it also happens to be cheaper as well isn't a bad reason to consider either.
But that's neither here nor there. Forgetting the fact that 50mv ripple isn't even stellar in the first place, and that many 80Plus Bronze units manage that, the simple fact is that if you're not OCing, you only need a PSU that's not going to physically break the components. Do you have evidence that something that merely meets or somewhat exceeds ATX12v standards will actually endanger a Maxwell card? If it's just "playing it safe", then why not set the bar way higher than you have? Why is one arbirary place the correct place to set it (even if those Be Quiet! units' mediocre performance doesn't set it enormously high)?
It might be nitpicky, but then, aren't you being nitpicky for criticizing the choice of 80+ Bronze units that are perfectly adequate and 1/3 the price of your suggestions? There's no evidence they'll fail to more than adequately power anything.
Well if you think that, you might as well just recommend everyone buy a WD Green, since apparently names that designate design differences are just marketing. What? They're 5400RPM drives? Eh, it's just a marketing number. Amirite?
Of course the answer is no. There are significant differences between drives in both sequential and random read/write performance. Samsung Spinpoint F1s actually beat out just about anything on the market for 7200RPM drives, but unlike Caviar Blacks, tend to be very expensive drives, instead of just moderately more expensive than the cheapest thing you can possibly get your hands on.
My storage drives tend to see heavy use for more than just dumping one's terrabyte torrented movie collection, so I tend to care if it can hold up well to secondary gaming storage use and the like. You may not, and that's fair, but...
and no drive is ever going to achieve that in real world use anyways, because no one sits around spending their days doing large sequential reads and writes. In real-world use, the 850EVO is often no less than 20% faster than the drive you suggested, sometimes substantially less, sometimes a little more, but generally for cases where it matters, random operations that are going to be less than synthetic benchmark ideal situations, that difference manifests pretty clearly in testing.
I could see cheaping out on bulk storage somewhat, but on your SSD? The whole reason we accept paying high $$/GB is because we want it fast. If I'm in for $110 anyways, I'll spend the $15-$20 more
Okay, they hit back in voltage regulation, but not by much, and frankly I'm more concerned about ripple anyways. Since you mention "noise" you are too it seems. By that standard, the Seasonic is a vastly superior PSU, and would be even if it was the same price, or more expensive. That it also happens to be cheaper as well isn't a bad reason to consider either.But that's neither here nor there. Forgetting the fact that 50mv ripple isn't even stellar in the first place, and that many 80Plus Bronze units manage that, the simple fact is that if you're not OCing, you only need a PSU that's not going to physically break the components. Do you have evidence that something that merely meets or somewhat exceeds ATX12v standards will actually endanger a Maxwell card? If it's just "playing it safe", then why not set the bar way higher than you have? Why is one arbirary place the correct place to set it (even if those Be Quiet! units' mediocre performance doesn't set it enormously high)?
It might be nitpicky, but then, aren't you being nitpicky for criticizing the choice of 80+ Bronze units that are perfectly adequate and 1/3 the price of your suggestions? There's no evidence they'll fail to more than adequately power anything.
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Pretty simple WD Black,Red,Green,Purple, Rainbowcolor etc. are Marketingbullshit
Well if you think that, you might as well just recommend everyone buy a WD Green, since apparently names that designate design differences are just marketing. What? They're 5400RPM drives? Eh, it's just a marketing number. Amirite?
Of course the answer is no. There are significant differences between drives in both sequential and random read/write performance. Samsung Spinpoint F1s actually beat out just about anything on the market for 7200RPM drives, but unlike Caviar Blacks, tend to be very expensive drives, instead of just moderately more expensive than the cheapest thing you can possibly get your hands on.
My storage drives tend to see heavy use for more than just dumping one's terrabyte torrented movie collection, so I tend to care if it can hold up well to secondary gaming storage use and the like. You may not, and that's fair, but...
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Sata III restricts read speed by 600 MB/s you have with the data head pretty much on all given ssds around 525 to 550 MB/s - and those 20MB/s arn't anything you will notice in a consumer rig.
and no drive is ever going to achieve that in real world use anyways, because no one sits around spending their days doing large sequential reads and writes. In real-world use, the 850EVO is often no less than 20% faster than the drive you suggested, sometimes substantially less, sometimes a little more, but generally for cases where it matters, random operations that are going to be less than synthetic benchmark ideal situations, that difference manifests pretty clearly in testing.
I could see cheaping out on bulk storage somewhat, but on your SSD? The whole reason we accept paying high $$/GB is because we want it fast. If I'm in for $110 anyways, I'll spend the $15-$20 more
Edited by Catamount, 10 January 2015 - 08:30 PM.
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