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[JimboFBX]

Can you guys look into optimizing the mech code a bit? I get 25 - 45 fps with a GTX 970 until most mechs are killed and if I use performance monitor I can see that most of 4 cores on my CPU (Phenom II x4 @ 3.6 Ghz) aren't being used. Way too much logic on the render thread. Once the game ends (but still in game) I get 60 fps which is the limit with adaptive V-sync on.

Edited by JimboFBX, 19 October 2014 - 10:47 PM.

[Armament]

+1, my game runs fine but many people run at extremely low fps due to the coding.

[Troutmonkey]

Using a Phenom X6 1090T and my frame rate is terrible as well. Barely using any of my cores and only using about 70% of my GPU (AMD 6970).

My frame rate varies wildly but can be anywhere between 20 and 45 while playing.

Setting graphics to super low does absolutely nothing to help, so I leave it at ultra.

Edited by Troutmonkey, 20 October 2014 - 05:01 AM.

[Celtic Warrior]

Have you guys tried unlocking all your cores? Windows will park cores if the game or software is not setup to use multiple threads. I use an FX 8350 with an R9 280x and am getting 60fps. I unlocked all 8 of my cores though.

Edit to above statment: From what I re-read windows will park cores to save power and that's about it, its a power saving feature. But the savings are to low to even notice so you should unpark them and get the full effect lol.

Edited by Celtic Warrior, 23 October 2014 - 04:09 PM.

[Idealsuspect]

With I-920 ( without overcloaking ) everything is fine ^^ oh wait i play on lower detail coze this game give me a cry engine memory allocation error all times..... :=)

[Goose]

And when you set a framerate limit of 30~45, what happens?

[Vxheous]

Your problem is pairing a GTX 970 with a crap aging processor like the Phenom II x4.

[Armament]

Vxheous, on 20 October 2014 - 06:56 PM, said:

Your problem is pairing a GTX 970 with a crap aging processor like the Phenom II x4.

So you don't admit 25fps is a bit low for that processor? With that CPU and video card they should have no issue running most modern games at 60fps.

Edited by Armament, 20 October 2014 - 07:13 PM.

[JimboFBX]

Yep, Alien Isolation cranked to ultra is 60 fps. I can even play it in VR @ 75 fps after tweaking some of the settings. Testing grounds runs at 60 fps. There's not a single AAA game that I've tried that my CPU doesn't handle no problem.

But nope, more than 4 stompy robots alive and I get below 60 fps.

[Kin3ticX]

some related info from PGI I came by helping out with another post

http://mwomercs.com/...l-update-april/

DX9/DX11 Performance http://mwomercs.com/...28#entry3217828

They are well aware the game is CPU bound and suggest some ways to put less workload on the CPU.

An aging AMD chip will fare much worse than an aging Intel chip because of the instructions per clock and the core freq on single cores. I am using a 2500k from early 2011 and it still does nicely.

Edited by Kin3ticX, 21 October 2014 - 12:25 AM.

[Summon3r]

as with almost all performance issues with MWO its mainly a matter of an aging AMD cpu that isnt clocked over 4ghz. your video card will crush this game for as long as it exists.

[Celtic Warrior]

My old Phonom II played this game just fine there's probably something more happening here then the chip.

[siLve00]

You are using the amd p II x4 975 ?
The sad part... its not even 5% faster as my 955 and not.. the maximum for a non bottleneck system would be a r9270x or gtx 670 everything above that... well is more likely a waste of gpu.

I do run on my 955 r9270x system 55 fps ( 1680x1050x2 ( dualscreen 1 for the game 1 for movies or well random crap )

my oe i7 r290x oe system runs 60 fps ( due restrictions.. could be more with other settings ) on 1920x1080 / 1680x1050x2 tripple screen
( just to make it clear a normal gtx 970 is at the same range like a normal r290x ).

The best way to explain it... your CPU is the Building... it sets the parameters and nothing can break it. It sets the limits. Your CPU holds back the GPU from rendering more frames each second.....
since there is plenty of internal processing done by the CPU corresponding to what is going on inside the game.

So in other words.. your gpu is getting bored to death... oh and 1 note.. every1 got a bottlneck.. the question is how small / big is it.. and... lower resolution = bigger bottleneck ( high or low resolution doesnt affect your CPU just the GPU since the job is always the same for the CPU )


*sry for the typos i just wanted to go to bed and iam tired as hell*
*just started mw:o bc i got curious... 47%x4 @4,2 ghz ( its a 4.4 ghz oe system )

Edited by siLve00, 21 October 2014 - 04:41 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Vxheous, on 20 October 2014 - 06:56 PM, said:

Your problem is pairing a GTX 970 with a crap aging processor like the Phenom II x4.

Yeah the only fix is to finally upgrade from such an old AMD CPU. It was just okay 5 years ago.

Edited by Kevjack, 21 October 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[Xarian]

The problem is Adobe Flash.

Optimize Flash, and you will increase your frame rate significantly. Try playing with all the various flash settings.

Want proof? Turn your HUD off in-game and watch FPS skyrocket.

[MandyB]

Wow im running a Q6600 cpu (old i know) and a gtx 580 at max graphics and usually get 60+ fps, ive got links to my twitch stream if anyone wants proof. I'll check back again on this thread im interested to see what could be causing those issues you guys are having.

Edited by MandyB, 21 October 2014 - 05:47 PM.

[DarthPeanut]

Just put in my Gigabyte GTX 970 g1 gaming with an i5 2500k @ 4.2... seeing 80+ fps in a battle.

[Vezm]

Turn particles down a little. Make sure your GPU is set to take care of physics calculations in nVidia control panel, I'm not sure how much it does on MWO but it's worth a try.

If you're willing to clock your CPU a little higher, do that. I'm not sure about AMD, but intel CPUs can clock per core, so underclocking 2 cores and overclocking 2 might give you some heat head room.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

they REALLY need to do some optimization, so that graphical options load on the video card instead of the cpu.

[Troutmonkey]

Celtic Warrior, on 20 October 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

Have you guys tried unlocking all your cores? Windows will park cores if the game or software is not setup to use multiple threads. I use an FX 8350 with an R9 280x and am getting 60fps. I unlocked all 8 of my cores though.

You got a link on what you are talking about here? I've never heard of this.
It used to be that you could unlock cores on the old dual core Phenoms as some where just quad cores with two cores disabled, but I don't think that's what you're talking about here.