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[Valar13]

I just wanted to address a problem I'm seeing more and more as CW moves along.

First off, though, I want to commend all of the units and players who have shown no end of good sportsmanship. Win or lose, facestomp or white-knuckle, edge-of-your-seat close battle, those who have been no less than courteous and honorable in words and actions have my respect and my thanks for making CW even more fun than I find it to be on its own merits.

But there is a vocal subset of the community who does not hold itself to the same standards. Ragging on those they defeat, harassing and accusing those who defeat them, both two sides of the same coin.

CW is a game mode. Your performance here has zero actual meaning in the real world. You are not a better person if you win 90% of your matches, and your opponents are not terrible people if they use strategies you cannot counter to beat you 99% of the time. What you put into the community, you get out. If that is 'professionalism' and courtesy, you get back respect and perhaps even friendship - certainly goodwill and an eagerness to play against you again, whatever the outcome. You put in rudeness, epeen stroking, and arrogance, you get back a community that wishes it could excise you like a tumor, and playing against you is a chore no one looks forward to. Quite simply put, you are the death of the community.

In virtually no other competitive medium would the behavior of many of the people here be desirable or even tolerable. In most, it would be penalized. Since there seems to be no overt penalty for bad sportsmanship in MWO, I am calling upon the community to self-police. Your enemies on the opposite side of a fictional colored space map are not deserving of your contempt, whether they win or lose against you, and by acting otherwise, you're only acting to push CW towards being a ghost town where no one wants to be because they don't want to deal with how unpleasant you are.

Basically, be good to one another. Win or lose, you need someone on the other side, else it's just a one-sided circle jerk of boredom and long queues.

[Harathan]

So, MercStar then.

[HARDKOR]

I had good manners permanently installed via the mechanism of having to ask people for games in MW4. It extends past being polite into taking it down a notch and giving the respawns a chance to get in the fight when it starts being a stomp.

I rarely see bad attitudes in MWO. Good job all around, guys.

edit: posted before me must be seeing a side of the unit I never see. I have never witnessed Mercstar being rude to the opponent. Going overboard with forumwarrioronline, but certainly not in the actual game. I did however drop against some Davion guys yesterday that were calling people noobs and talking smack, but I believe they had history with the Marik guys I dropped with, and it was going both ways(battle ended 46/48 so it was friendly trash talk IMHO, not elites hating on noobs.)

Edited by HARDKOR, 09 February 2015 - 01:31 PM.

[Ax2Grind]

Harathan, on 09 February 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

So, MercStar then.

We do seem to get the blame for everything, even when we thank all of the people we play with and against. I hear we even have 800 members, they are all more toxic than the goons, and they shoot fireballs out their arse. Such is the power of all myths.

Great post Valar!

[Valar13]

Harathan, on 09 February 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

So, MercStar then.

Nah, just speaking in broad generalities. I actually didn't have any one person of group in mind when I wrote this. Been mulling it over for a while now.

[HARDKOR]

BRB, dropping off some ass fireballs at the pool.

[LawDawg]

Being a Marine (Just Retired) I drilled my son to say Yes sir, Yes Ma'am and reverse. Give respect and good manners. It will take you a long way.

Edited by LawDawg, 09 February 2015 - 01:36 PM.

[Mystere]

Good luck distinguishing between RP and the real thing.

[Valar13]

And to be clear, I've never seen MS players in-game or with a few exceptions on the forums who were any less than good sports, win or lose.

[Valar13]

Mystere, on 09 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

Good luck distinguishing between RP and the real thing.

It's not difficult. I don't recall any House units calling opponents "bads". There's a space for role play. It's different from malicious trash-talk.

[HARDKOR]

LawDawg, on 09 February 2015 - 01:36 PM, said:

Being a Marine (Just Retired) I drilled my son to say Yes sir, Yes Ma'am and reverse. Give respect and good manners. It will take you a long way.

I tend to flip between giving people a half-sir-sandwich and spouting the bluest humor I can, depending on the situation.

The respect part is testing the waters before you open up the can of {Richard Cameron}.

[LawDawg]

HARDKOR, on 09 February 2015 - 01:59 PM, said:

I tend to flip between giving people a half-sir-sandwich and spouting the bluest humor I can, depending on the situation.

The respect part is testing the waters before you open up the can of {Richard Cameron}.

Respect is earned, and I didn't ask for your's.

[Screech]

From my experience the only time you really will hear "You all Suck" it will come from a teammate not an opponent.

#PUGLIFE

[Ax2Grind]

Screech, on 09 February 2015 - 03:21 PM, said:

From my experience the only time you really will hear "You all Suck" it will come from a teammate not an opponent.

#PUGLIFE

So true.

[HARDKOR]

LawDawg, on 09 February 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

Respect is earned, and I didn't ask for your's.

If you are really a cop, you won't be getting it, sir.

[LawDawg]

HARDKOR, on 09 February 2015 - 04:00 PM, said:

If you are really a cop, you won't be getting it, sir.

Failure to read.............. Marine. Big differace. But you would know.

[Harathan]

LawDawg, on 09 February 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

Failure to read.............. Marine. Big differace. But you would know.

Or he was referring to your forum handle? Dumb jarhead stereotype coming to fruition, or posted a heated reply too hastily? Think fast, Marine.

Edited by Harathan, 09 February 2015 - 04:33 PM.

[HARDKOR]

Former marine, chooses name LawDawg, jumps down my throat about not wanting my respect in a completely unprovoked manner... no idea why I thought I smelled bacon.

Carry on, Mr Sir.

[LawDawg]

Harathan, on 09 February 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

Or he was referring to your forum handle? Dumb jarhead stereotype coming to fruition, or posted a heated reply too hastily? Think fast, Marine.

Oh hey there spud, Last Name is ... "#W$#%#" and Marines are know as Devildogs... Dog Was takin.... "LawDog" / LawDawg So Pull your foot out your mouth, Then try to get my boot out your ass kid.

BTW, we like being called being Jarhead and all that...........

Guess you have something against Marines or the Mil.? Dont matter. It is not needed.

[LawDawg]

HARDKOR, on 09 February 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

Former marine, chooses name LawDawg, jumps down my throat about not wanting my respect in a completely unprovoked manner... no idea why I thought I smelled bacon.

Carry on, Mr Sir.

Awww, someone mad they cant read? Called me a "Cop", and now come backs with a pathetic attempt at being whitty? GG? Join Lords Sirs, maybe you'll have more GG's in your life.

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