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#1 Navid A1

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:02 AM

I thought vomiting was a clan thing... :o

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#2 Wintersdark

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about in the Weekend Update announcement thread.

This is pretty much the worst case of a hero pandering to the Current Meta I've ever seen.

I sure would laugh hard if they broke the laser vomit meta with the next rebalance pass. So hard.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM

It looks mean on-paper, but in practice it might end up like this:

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View PostWintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about in the Weekend Update announcement thread.

This is pretty much the worst case of a hero pandering to the Current Meta I've ever seen.

I sure would laugh hard if they broke the laser vomit meta with the next rebalance pass. So hard.

To be fair, this is actually a totally canon hero mech with a stock config.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:06 AM

Let's not wet our pants just yet.

Russ said it's not getting many energy quirks, that means it will be like a Grasshopper firepower wise but with even less going for it.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 04 July 2015 - 10:07 AM.


#5 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:07 AM

Should've been named Tallman, all i'm saying.

The "Top dog" is an incredibly boring and generic name.
Also, not a big fan of the paint job.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 04 July 2015 - 10:08 AM.


#6 Wintersdark

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:08 AM

View PostFupDup, on 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

It looks mean on-paper, but in practice it might end up like this:

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lol awesome!

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To be fair, this is actually a totally canon hero mech with a stock config.

I get that, and that's good. It just absolutely feels like pandering to the current meta, and in a totally redundant way. How is this really anything other than a TDR-5SS with one extra energy hardpoint? (OMG PAY TO WIN!)

View PostUltimatum X, on 04 July 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Let's not wet our pants just yet.

Russ said it's not getting many energy quirks, that means it will be like a Grasshopper firepower wise but with even less going for it.

After all, remember how awesome the TDR-5SS was before it got quirked... Such an awesome mech, that everyone loved.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:13 AM

What?
No machineguns?

pff. :P

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:22 AM

Would have preferred something like quad missile with quad energy.

#9 Alistair Winter

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:30 AM

View PostWintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about in the Weekend Update announcement thread.

This is pretty much the worst case of a hero pandering to the Current Meta I've ever seen.

I sure would laugh hard if they broke the laser vomit meta with the next rebalance pass. So hard.

Best thing to do now is to just be quiet and nod when people say "But it's a canon mech. It just happens to be tailor-made for the current meta" and "It's not P2W because the Timber Wolf is better anyway."

And keep the popcorn ready for next week.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:40 AM

I am contemplating 2x mplas + 6x mlas or 1x Lplas + 6x mlas. I have been simulating the later build on the Banshee but it is still hotter than the 5SS meta build. Engine would be 300 STD with 20 or 21 DHS.

Right now I am thinking 5SS > 9SE >= Tallman > 5S > 9S. Agree?

#11 Tom Sawyer

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:47 AM

View PostUltimatum X, on 04 July 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Let's not wet our pants just yet.

Russ said it's not getting many energy quirks, that means it will be like a Grasshopper firepower wise but with even less going for it.


So quirk it with MG ROF or range lol

Still find it amusing the so called hero mechs are not to be found in serious CW matches :P

#12 Wintersdark

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:49 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 04 July 2015 - 10:30 AM, said:

Best thing to do now is to just be quiet and nod when people say "But it's a canon mech. It just happens to be tailor-made for the current meta" and "It's not P2W because the Timber Wolf is better anyway."

And keep the popcorn ready for next week.
The forums will run salty with the tears of people who bought the hero Mech "because it was a Canon hero" today.... Followed by the "bait and switch" and "money grubbing" etc style comments should lasers not be The Thing anymore.

Despite the fact that you can see it coming from miles away.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:50 AM

View PostFupDup, on 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

It looks mean on-paper, but in practice it might end up like this:

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This is awesome!! :D

Edited by Rhazien, 04 July 2015 - 10:51 AM.
Lrn ta spaze


#14 Wintersdark

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:51 AM

View PostTom Sawyer, on 04 July 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:


So quirk it with MG ROF or range lol

Still find it amusing the so called hero mechs are not to be found in serious CW matches :P


That's our fault. Correct or not, from day one we (that is, the vocal majority of forumers) have screamed bloody murder at any hint that Hero mechs could be pay 2 win, so PGI has consistently released Hero mechs with fewer hard points than their contemporaries, generally without ECM, etc.

We asked, and PGI delivered.

#15 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 04 July 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

I thought vomiting was a clan thing... :o

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so 6 Mediums with 2 ERLL on top?

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

If it at least has armor, laser range and/or mobility quirks it may be ok. Though negative heat at least to 10% would be good.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:56 AM

View PostFupDup, on 04 July 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

It looks mean on-paper, but in practice it might end up like this:

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To be fair, this is actually a totally canon hero mech with a stock config.

and to be fair, they had plenty other noteworthy pilots to choose from. Odd that they choose the laservomit special in the middle of laservomit meta.....hmmmmm?

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:57 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 04 July 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

so 6 Mediums with 2 ERLL on top?
30pt up close burn, decent poke as well, it'd be a fine build really. Boring, but fine.

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:58 AM

^my predicitions are for the full structure quirks in line with the other thuds and 5-7.5% buff on general heat and mlas heat.

I have no idea if cooldown or laser duration quirks will be present. My gut tells me no. Most likely no range buffs either which is fine since I fight under 300 meters mostly.

#20 Wintersdark

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Posted 04 July 2015 - 10:59 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 04 July 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

and to be fair, they had plenty other noteworthy pilots to choose from. Odd that they choose the laservomit special in the middle of laservomit meta.....hmmmmm?
That was my point.

However, I'll concede that there aren't many mechs without heroes, we've already got a Medium hero being released, and apparently this is the only time line appropriate Thud canon hero...

Still, I find peoples sudden appreciation for Canon hero mechs suspect given the situation.







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