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[Yellonet]

PGI, would you please remove the stutter that happens when you use the function for centring the legs to where the torso is pointing?

I use this function to be able to steer with the mouse (hold center button, then steer with the mouse), it's quite relaxing and works well, especially on lights and mediums that turn decently quick. It can even be used in combat for lights so that you keep changing direction all the time.

With the current implementation though it makes the screen stutter all the time when you steer and it's quite painful/irritating on the eyes after a while.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Here here!
I use it all the time.
So much in fact, that I bound it to space bar and bound jump jets to something else.

Center legs to torso is far superior to center torso to legs, simply because of the added capabilities that you mentioned, like turning with your mouse.
You can also (when torso twisted to some degree) center legs to torso and then continue to torso twist. The legs will continually attempt to center to your torso until you let them, or until you steer in any direction.

It’s really slick with lights.
It’d be nice if the jitter was gone because I often use it when circle strafing and I'm holding the target in my sights. The jitter when centering legs throws the reticle off to the side for some reason, even though you were spot on before. That's the only downfall.

[Mystere]

It's an unavoidable mechanical feature of Mechs. Think about it.

[Bishop Steiner]

it can't be helped... your mech is tripping over your crutch.......

[Amsro]

LOL, this "feature" is to help newbs when they can't find there legs/torso.

Once you know where your mech is you will be better off without these functions.

[Nightmare1]

...And here I thought nobody actually used those buttons and was annoyed when the Tutorial made me map them to something.

[Bishop Steiner]

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

LOL, this "feature" is to help newbs when they can't find there legs/torso.

Once you know where your mech is you will be better off without these functions.

center legs, armslock......

I guess some folks think training wheels look good.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

LOL, this "feature" is to help newbs when they can't find there legs/torso.

Once you know where your mech is you will be better off without these functions.

LOL

Center torso to legs maybe. Center legs to torso is excellent and very useful. Especially if you want to correct your mech to travel in exactly the direction that you're looking.
You look where you want to go, center legs, and then you can torso twist past an opening, fire, and you don't have to worry about bonking into terrain that will slow or stop you mech.

It's not a crutch, it literally is a useful tool.
Center torso to legs, different story.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 05 October 2015 - 08:12 AM.

[Amsro]

MoonUnitBeta, on 05 October 2015 - 08:07 AM, said:

LOL

Center torso to legs maybe. Center legs to torso is excellent and very useful. Especially if you want to correct your mech to travel in exactly the direction that you're looking.
You look where you want to go, center legs, and then you can torso twist past an opening, fire, and you don't have to worry about bonking into terrain that will slow or stop you mech.

It's not a crutch, it literally is a useful tool.
Center torso to legs, different story.

Nope its a crutch, your legs rotate unnaturally. It is an easy button

[MoonUnitBeta]

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 08:14 AM, said:

Nope its a crutch, your legs rotate unnaturally. It is an easy button

They rotate unnaturally... oooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.



Now instead of it being used to help new people, it's called an easy button.... How is that a crutch? A crutch is the dependancy on something thats inhibiting your ability to perform as well as you should... this is improving it in my books.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 05 October 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[Mystere]

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 08:14 AM, said:

Nope its a crutch, your legs rotate unnaturally. It is an easy button

Just because you are unable to determine their tactical usefulness does not mean no one else can.

[YokiLin]

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

LOL, this "feature" is to help newbs when they can't find there legs/torso.

Once you know where your mech is you will be better off without these functions.

maybe that's why you are in Tier 3

[Mystere]

YokiLin, on 05 October 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

maybe that's why you are in Tier 3

Tsk! Tsk!

[WonderSparks]

It's something, it can be useful if you use it right. More often than not I end up using the turn commands halfway through using center legs to torso so it kind of defeats the purpose. XD

YokiLin, on 05 October 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

maybe that's why you are in Tier 3

I resemble that remark!

[MoonUnitBeta]

WonderSparks, on 05 October 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

It's something, it can be useful if you use it right. More often than not I end up using the turn commands halfway through using center legs to torso so it kind of defeats the purpose. XD

Yeah, i do that too, I don't know if you know this, but you don't have to hold down the button for center legs. You can just press it once and it'll do its thing. Sounds like you know though.
I like it because sometimes I get a little carried away or focused on something else and I push down really hard on the keys and forget that I'm still turning. Nearly put my finger through the keyboard. Center legs just helps me know that my legs are now turning and I don't have to press any buttons as my legs turn towards my torso. I still know where they are pointing, but it just means I can focus on other things and saves me from getting carried away.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 05 October 2015 - 09:03 AM.

[Amsro]

MoonUnitBeta, on 05 October 2015 - 08:18 AM, said:

They rotate unnaturally... oooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.



Now instead of it being used to help new people, it's called an easy button.... How is that a crutch? A crutch is the dependancy on something thats inhibiting your ability to perform as well as you should... this is improving it in my books.

A crutch is something you use when you can't perform as good as normal, aka my leg doesn't work like it should so I use crutches to help me walk.

Can't center my own legs so I hit a button to do it for me.

YokiLin, on 05 October 2015 - 08:41 AM, said:

maybe that's why you are in Tier 3

Yes it is all to do with the tier.

I do enjoy the sarcasm tho!!

Mystere, on 05 October 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:

Just because you are unable to determine their tactical usefulness does not mean no one else can.

In fact I've used both center functions and I've found that being a better mech pilot negates the need to center at all.

It's a kin to pushing a button on the steering wheel of your car to center the wheels after a turn.

Instead just learn to drive the mech. There is no stutter to the aim if you don't use the align to center button.

And in the end it is just an opinion, of which I have many and I'm sure they stink too.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 05 October 2015 - 08:21 AM, said:

Just because you are unable to determine their tactical usefulness does not mean no one else can.

training wheels have tactical uses too...for those who cannot ride bikes without them. Generally, I would just recommend they stick to tricycles, though.

Amsro, on 05 October 2015 - 09:41 AM, said:

A crutch is something you use when you can't perform as good as normal, aka my leg doesn't work like it should so I use crutches to help me walk.

Can't center my own legs so I hit a button to do it for me.


Yes it is all to do with the tier.

I do enjoy the sarcasm tho!!



In fact I've used both center functions and I've found that being a better mech pilot negates the need to center at all.

It's a kin to pushing a button on the steering wheel of your car to center the wheels after a turn.

Instead just learn to drive the mech. There is no stutter to the aim if you don't use the align to center button.

And in the end it is just an opinion, of which I have many and I'm sure they stink too.

these kids probably can't drive stick shifts either...... SMH...what's this world coming to.....

[Juodas Varnas]

I'd rather they fixed the stuttering during day-night transitions.
Cause I can't avoid those (keep in mind that the game runs 40-60 fps depending on the map, usually)

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 05 October 2015 - 09:45 AM, said:

training wheels have tactical uses too...for those who cannot ride bikes without them. Generally, I would just recommend they stick to tricycles, though.

Locked arms were supposed to be only "training wheels" too. And so was 3PV. But look what some people did with them, causing many others to cry about them.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 05 October 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

Locked arms were supposed to be only "training wheels" too. And so was 3PV. But look what some people did with them, causing many others to cry about them.

and look at how those people cry at the thought of not having them.

But....bruh.... I might hafta like... learn to target two separate crosshairs? Game over bruh!

Hence: Crutches.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 05 October 2015 - 09:54 AM.