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[DuncanMechLeod]

hi all,

through very mathy thingies i present you the true present hitboxes of:

a ) arctic cheata #iamskilledtier1lightpilotroxxorlol #prenerflightgod





you will notice the void zones, between the hitboxes.

this is no failure in my very mathy thing, no, this zones when hit, will actually make just the ragdoll blink, no dmg calculated.

in addition, when you actually hit the true hitzones, you have to know that they will be maintained by montgomery scott himself, supported by mcgyver and overwatched by chuck norris.

this results in actual hitpoints of an atlas.

no, you didnt quite understand. not the whole cheata has armor of an atlas.

just ... every ... f****... hitzone

you just unloaded your full pinpoint alpha in a standing still cheata?

good luck with that.

when you stare long enough in the abyss, the abyss stares back!


in contradiction we come to the hitzones of a casual light:



b ) the poor jenner




as you see, no matter where, what, when you hit, you hit something.

you just lasered out of boredom a tree?

well, the poor jenner standing behind and scouting and hiding, cored.

[FupDup]

That doesn't look very scientific...

[Alienized]

epic :>

[H I A S]

DuncanMechLeod, on 01 November 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

hi all,

through very mathy thingies i present you the true present hitboxes of:

a ) arctic cheata #iamskilledtier1lightpilotroxxorlol #prenerflightgod





you will notice the void zones, between the hitboxes.

this is no failure in my very mathy thing, no, this zones when hit, will actually make just the ragdoll blink, no dmg calculated.

in addition, when you actually hit the true hitzones, you have to know that they will be maintained by montgomery scott himself, supported by mcgyver and overwatched by chuck norris.

this results in actual hitpoints of an atlas.

no, you didnt quite understand. not the whole cheata has armor of an atlas.

just ... every ... f****... hitzone

you just unloaded your full pinpoint alpha in a standing still cheata?

good luck with that.

when you stare long enough in the abyss, the abyss stares back!


in contradiction we come to the hitzones of a casual light:



b ) the poor jenner




as you see, no matter where, what, when you hit, you hit something.

you just lasered out of boredom a tree?

well, the poor jenner standing behind and scouting and hiding, cored.

lol Limp, go away

[DuncanMechLeod]

FupDup, on 01 November 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

That doesn't look very scientific...

i have to back up my very scientific mathy thingies with

this guy, obviously:

arivio, on 01 November 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

lol Limp, go away

i dont know where...

everywhere cheatas *veryscared*

Edited by DuncanMechLeod, 01 November 2015 - 12:16 PM.

[TyphonCh]

Those Jenner hitboxes are accurate, true enough
Too bad every light wasn't built like an ACH...

[Xetelian]

These ACH hate threads are seriously depressing.

A light mech, no matter how good, is NOT over powered. There is a reason why the queue for lights is 10% and 20% for everything else.

I'd like to see a much better presentation of hitboxes.

[Mcgral18]

And obligatory:

[DuncanMechLeod]

Xetelian, on 01 November 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

These ACH hate threads are seriously depressing.

A light mech, no matter how good, is NOT over powered. There is a reason why the queue for lights is 10% and 20% for everything else.

I'd like to see a much better presentation of hitboxes.

let me try something in paint... very mathy i tell you

[zagibu]

ACH is not a light mech. It has the firepower of bad IS heavies.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 01 November 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

And obligatory:

his has more charts and pictures... is more sceincy FTW

[Otto Cannon]

Cheetah loves your tears.

[Alistair Winter]

All jokes aside, the Jenner CT diagram is accurate.

[Sarlic]

Kind of funny with all these ACH defenders. But hey; normal thing i see it all the time.

I don't see many Jenners, Spiders or even Commies going on.

I mean not that hardpoint inflation, overly ECM, sup-par hitboxes and scale doenst mean anything. Right?

If all lights would have brought at the same level of a ACH, for example the Wolfhound is a good start and those are a welcome change.

But when i look at scaling alot of mechs, and i mean ALOT are behind proper scale.

No wonder everyone takes a ACH and or a Wolfhound.

Go figure.

Edited by Sarlic, 01 November 2015 - 01:45 PM.

[Troutmonkey]

As someone who's run Jenners, Firestarters and Cheetahs, I can tell you that the Cheetah spreads damage like a boss, and deals it just as well.

Running the 6SPL Cheetah with ECM is friggin easy mode, in that I've accidentally hit 900+ damage games without effort, when I struggle to do that in heavies and assaults. The Firestarter for comparison only hits 500 damage or so in my really good games, and the Jenner I currently struggle to breach 300.

[cSand]

yes I look forward to extreme punting this mech is gonna get from the nerf deparment

[Random Carnage]

The man speaks the truth...

I left his name visible because he played like a champ and deserves the credit, but even so... dem cheetahs...hmm...

Edited by Random Carnage, 02 November 2015 - 12:51 AM.

[Random Carnage]

Xetelian, on 01 November 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

These ACH hate threads are seriously depressing.

A light mech, no matter how good, is NOT over powered. There is a reason why the queue for lights is 10% and 20% for everything else.

LOLOLOL...pfft...oh, wait...you're serious...

Edited by Random Carnage, 02 November 2015 - 12:56 AM.

[Weeny Machine]

Troutmonkey, on 01 November 2015 - 06:56 PM, said:

As someone who's run Jenners, Firestarters and Cheetahs, I can tell you that the Cheetah spreads damage like a boss, and deals it just as well.

Running the 6SPL Cheetah with ECM is friggin easy mode, in that I've accidentally hit 900+ damage games without effort, when I struggle to do that in heavies and assaults. The Firestarter for comparison only hits 500 damage or so in my really good games, and the Jenner I currently struggle to breach 300.

I play mostly on various lights and can only agree. The spread of an ACH and FS is comparable. However, the ECM, jump capability and firepower make the ACH simply better.

The Wolfie isn't bad either but it tanks not as well as an ACH nor has the jump jets nor the ECM.

Sure, the upcoming ECM change will tone down the ACH somewhat but I still think something is fishy with its hitboxes. Yesterday an ACH which already took LRM damage overheated right in front of me and I put 4 ML squarly in its CT...and it was still yellow.

[Random Carnage]

Bush Hopper, on 02 November 2015 - 01:15 AM, said:

Sure, the upcoming ECM change will tone down the ACH somewhat but I still think something is fishy with its hitboxes. Yesterday an ACH which already took LRM damage overheated right in front of me and I put 4 ML squarly in its CT...and it was still yellow.

Try unloading a double tap of 8 CUAC10's into one of the little sh*ts and watching it run off.