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[Gammeth1975]

Hi folks,

I am seeking opinions whether to "upgrade" the board and cpu on my second rig. I currenly run

I7 860 @ 3.5ghz under arctic cooling i30
Gigabyte p55 ud3r board
16gb ddr3 1600mhz
Radeon hd 7970

I get reasonable performance with dips to around 30 fps and average around 40 fps at med settings. I belive that the system is limited by the older cpu architecture and low clock speed. I recently had a g3258 chip and asus z97p board fall into my lap. I would expect to achive 4.4ghz on the pentium with the cooling available.

So the question is, will the pentium out perform the old i7 for MWO specifically..

Seasons greetings and thanks in advance for the community wisdom...

[Insufficient Skill]

*nvm*

Edited by Insufficient Skill, 19 January 2016 - 02:30 PM.

[nnngn zero]

Hello

I wondered how the G3258 would perform in MWO myself.
When my old Dell XPS 720 died, I invested in a new setup.
I got the G3258 in a MSI H81M-P33 board with the stock cooler clocked at 4.0 ghz, a decently vented case, and 8gb of DDR3 ram.
I reused the old PNY 570 GTX and it plays very respectably for the few $ i spent.
FPS are steady at 60 with dips to 40-45 if things get hot.
My only problem is it will not run any sort of anti-aliasing.
Oh well.

I am sure if i upgraded the GPU I would see an increase in performance.

Hope this helps.

[Flapdrol]

I swapped out a 4GHz i5 750 for the pentium G3258, and fps improved in MWO. Though in some other games performance decreased slightly, the pentium sometimes required tinkering with fps limiters to make something run smoothly.

But for this game specifically it's an upgrade, especially if you run it on modest settings (some parts of the game don't scale to more cores, on low I get ~50% load on my quad, on high sometimes ~65%)

[Goose]

Insufficient Skill, on 29 December 2015 - 05:07 AM, said:

MWO is not known for making use of HTT.

O RLY

Insufficient Skill, on 29 December 2015 - 05:07 AM, said:

Oh - and check if you've selected MSAA-Antialiasing [sic] on your Radeon card, choosing FXAA instead should net some performance as well.

Only some? MultiSample Antialiasing on a Deferred Rending engine is only a little bad?

[Goose]

For Teh OP: Don't spend any money, yet; Try this:

d3d11_TripleBuffering = 1
sys_budget_sysmem = 7168
sys_budget_videomem = y
sys_MaxFPS = 42

sys_budget_streamingthroughput = x * 1024
sys_LocalMemoryGeometryStreamingSpeedLimit = x
sys_LocalMemoryTextureStreamingSpeedLimit = x
sys_streaming_max_bandwidth = x

ca_PrecacheAnimationSets = 1
r_Batching = 1
r_BatchType = 0
r_multiGPU = 0
r_MultiThreaded = 1
r_ShadersPreactivate = 1
r_stereodevice = 0
r_TexMaxAnisotropy = 16
r_TexMinAnisotropy = 0
r_TextureLodDistanceRatio = 0
r_Texture_Anisotropic_Level = 16
r_WaterTessellationHW = 1

r_Beams = 2
e_GsmCache = 1
q_ShaderWater = 0
r_FogShadows = 0
r_fogShadowsWater = 0
r_GeomInstancing = 1
r_silhouettePOM = 0
r_UsePOM = 0
 
sys_budget_soundCPU = 0
 
r_ShadersUseInstanceLookUpTable = 1
 
r_UseGSParticles = 1

sys_limit_phys_thread_count = 0
p_num_threads = 4


e_AutoPrecacheCgfMaxTasks = 4
p_num_jobs = 4

sys_job_system_max_worker = 8

What is "x"?

[Goose]

Then, we have, with much less certainty:

;ca_thread0Affinity = 5
;ca_thread1Affinity = 3
r_WaterUpdateThread = 0
sys_main_CPU = 3
sys_physics_CPU = 3
sys_streaming_CPU = 0
sys_TaskThread0_CPU = 3
sys_TaskThread1_CPU = 2
sys_TaskThread2_CPU = 0
sys_TaskThread3_CPU = 0
sys_TaskThread4_CPU = 2
sys_TaskThread5_CPU = 3


;0 = water, streaming, task2, task3
;1 = ca0
;2 = main, task4, task1
;3 = ca1, physics, task5, task0

I know giving ca0 a thread to itself is pivotal, but then there also seems to be issues with Main and Water not mixing, and maybe Streaming doesn't play with Task4 … And your raw lack-of Hz (needed for ca0) may just torpedo the whole enterprise …

For sake of reference:

; greater threads
;ca_thread0Affinity = type: int current: 5
;sys_TaskThread2_CPU = type: int current: 4
;sys_TaskThread4_CPU = type: int current: 2
; lesser threads
;ca_thread1Affinity = type: int current: 3
;r_WaterUpdateThread = type: int current: 5
;sys_main_CPU = type: int current: 0
;sys_physics_CPU = type: int current: 1
;sys_streaming_CPU = type: int current: 1
;sys_TaskThread0_CPU = type: int current: 3
;sys_TaskThread1_CPU = type: int current: 5
;sys_TaskThread3_CPU = type: int current: 3
;sys_TaskThread5_CPU = type: int current: 1

The "greater/ lesser" thing is my own notation …

Good luck, and keep in touch …

[Goose]

Oh; Wait: You have v-sync turned off everywhere you can think to look? Have you turned off Damage Glow?

… A Low Environment isn't eh worst thing in the world; Conversely, if your card has 2GB or so, you can crank Textures to Very.

… And your Windows Power Plan is set to Performance, and you have both Set Timer Resolution and Park Control up and running on this Window 7 box?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Flapdrol, on 29 December 2015 - 07:05 AM, said:

I swapped out a 4GHz i5 750 for the pentium G3258, and fps improved in MWO. Though in some other games performance decreased slightly, the pentium sometimes required tinkering with fps limiters to make something run smoothly.

But for this game specifically it's an upgrade, especially if you run it on modest settings (some parts of the game don't scale to more cores, on low I get ~50% load on my quad, on high sometimes ~65%)

Likewise i ran a 4.5/6ghz Pentium K and an old 560TI (448 edition) for fun last year or so. Surprisingly it ran the game perfectly fine.
MWO loves CPU clock cycles, Two Haswell cores at 4.5 are very good for MWO for the cost to get them anyway.

However you won't be doing anything else in the background on a dual core, so don't try to youtube or stream twitch etc because you'd just overload the cores.
A 40FPS+ constant is very doable on the Pentium K.

The fact you have both a board and chip, so it would cost nothing is reason alone to try it out short term, but you definitely want a quad core long term.

Edited by DV McKenna, 29 December 2015 - 09:45 AM.