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Hey Pgi, How About You Fix Your Team Stacking Matchmaker


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#21 Appogee

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:21 AM

I doubt it was a sync drop. MS is a huge group. More like a coincidence.

My unit is fairly small, and yet I still bump into team mates occasionally in PUG matches, sometimes on the same side.

#22 Yellonet

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:25 AM

I've gotten the impression that MS is a cheating/exploiting group, this only strengthen that impression.

#23 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:28 AM

See before group queue was made units where openly synch dropping in regular queue because they claimed groups of 4 were not enough and that they needed a special queue. The said they would continue synch dropping until a group queue was made.

Then they turn around and have claimed ever since that solo queue was made special out right lying publicly.

Now what could possibly be the reason they are synch dropping in the regular queue now so often?

Me thinks they cannot stand their own stink in group queue? :)

Also contrary to everything I just said I got nothing against premade teams believe it or not, just a problem with liars and cheats trying to sink the game.

Edited by Johnny Z, 23 August 2016 - 12:30 AM.


#24 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:39 AM

LOL @ all the syncdropping comments. Pathetic.

You idiots should realize that when you have a unit of 200 people some of them are bound to end up in the same match during the event where everyone is farming that leaderboard regardless of if they want it or not. Next time screen all your games and see how most matches they'll end up on different teams.

As for "names" ... yeah, sometimes you look at teams at the start and know exactly how its going to end no matter what you do. But same time a bunch of "names" can get rolled when they are farming leaderboard just coz none of them will support teammates and will spread all over the map like lemmings looking for those solo kills.

MM is a piece of sh!t, but I bet both those screenshots have 8-9 tier 1 players in both teams. It just happened that one team had way more tier 1 potatoes than actual tier 1 players. But then again ... gitgud and carry harder. 300 dmg in a top tier clan mech in 5 mins on a small map is kinda ... lame. Maybe you should look into your own contribution first and into team compositions later?

#25 Duke Nedo

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:45 AM

View PostKodiakGW, on 22 August 2016 - 07:56 PM, said:



How about that, another loss in 5 minutes. And to all you who are going to chime in "that it happens", please tell me the statistical odd of three from the same team landing in the same server on the same side. Yeah, I'd like to take those odds to Vegas. I'd be able to retire rich, if I didn't end up wearing cement shoes from cleaning out all the casinos.



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#26 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:52 AM

Theres a new stink in solo queue and it smells like group queue.

#27 Ghogiel

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:01 AM

but the chances of you getting a good player from MS isn't all that high tbh, they have hundreds of players and are primarily a casual unit with a small subsection of comp players. So who were the MS players is really the question, because there is a high variance in ability from that unit.

Secondly the MM sees all T1 players the same. Every EMP player is treated the same as a casual scrub as long as he is T1 as well. It's just a semi random distribution based on what mech they bring, it doesn't even know about unit tags to stack anything.

Thirdly when I saw the OPs screen I was "MS and 42? lol I bet the 9STS guy out performs them all" And he did confirming my suspicion OP is worrying about players based on tags rather that known experience of a player.

#28 MechWarrior414712

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:04 AM

This happens because there's not too many players online and the game has to find a team for everyone?

#29 iLLcapitan

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:08 AM

This threat is bursting of ridiculousness and this comment wins the sh!t crown

View PostYellonet, on 23 August 2016 - 12:25 AM, said:

I've gotten the impression that MS is a cheating/exploiting group, this only strengthen that impression.


#30 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:14 AM

View PostiLLcapitan, on 23 August 2016 - 01:08 AM, said:

This threat is bursting of ridiculousness and this comment wins the sh!t crown


I agree I bet they have had no more than 5 or 10 players perma banned for cheating. If they have had none or very few please correct me and I will apologize.

Some teams use a single cheat to win matches. So very few of them are perma banned.

Edited by Johnny Z, 23 August 2016 - 01:14 AM.


#31 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:16 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 23 August 2016 - 01:14 AM, said:

I agree I bet they have had no more than 5 or 10 players perma banned for cheating. If they have had none or very few please correct me and I will apologize.

Some teams use a single cheat to win matches. So very few of them are perma banned.


Are you a speech writer for Trump?

#32 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:22 AM

View PostRouken Vordermark, on 23 August 2016 - 01:16 AM, said:



Are you a speech writer for Trump?


Desperate really lame comeback much?

#33 Robot Kenshiro

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:27 AM

Unit tags are like tiers. If you dont actually know the pilot for real then they can be potatoes themselves and perform like anyone else. Good pilot. Or bad pilot. I've fought with and against those said units and they aren't God mode. Their mechs die just as much as your own.
They are good pilots yes. They play well together yes. It just go to show the solo que is just that. For solo players. Ppl either want to play as a team or they just choose to not care much and do whatever they want.

Sometimes you get the good draw and have a great bunch of ppl who aren't in any units. Who are all solo players. Have great coms and pretty much crush the opposing team.

Cant blame match maker. Cant blame units. Just gotta accept defeat. Get back up and go at it again.
I've been in games and im sure alot of others too who have been demolished within less then 5mins. Just luck of the draw.

#34 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:28 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 23 August 2016 - 01:22 AM, said:

Desperate really lame comeback much?


No more so than someone taking a single screen shot of 3 people with the same tag as proof an entire unit is exploiting a system.

#35 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:34 AM

View PostRouken Vordermark, on 23 August 2016 - 01:28 AM, said:



No more so than someone taking a single screen shot of 3 people with the same tag as proof an entire unit is exploiting a system.


Many of the top units are well known cheats. Screenshots of them doing it yet again in another way is no surprise.

At least one top unit is playing clean though and is good. Theres another large top unit that is clean with the exception of one who is most likely banned or what ever by now.

#36 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:37 AM

View PostJohnny Z, on 23 August 2016 - 01:34 AM, said:

Many of the top units are well known cheats.


Seeing what you take as proof, that means very little.

#37 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:50 AM

View PostRouken Vordermark, on 23 August 2016 - 01:37 AM, said:



Seeing what you take as proof, that means very little.


I don't need a screen shot thet may or may not be legit. I have seen them cheat myself on countless occasions. Bunch of really bad players using cheats so they don't suck. I think most of them have poor vision to be entirely honest. Bad hand eye coordination as well. Some may even drool uncontrollably they are so bad at piloting.

They are for sure synch dropping en mass on alts in regular queue creating stomps very often. When I say they I mean "them". :)

I actually think that screenshot did everyone a favour showing that synch dropping is going on. There is no doubt it is on alts. So thanks to that guild actually.

Edited by Johnny Z, 23 August 2016 - 02:00 AM.


#38 Elrik Stormbringer

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:01 AM

What are the chances the op would have been bothered enough to post about this if he had landed on the other team?


Yeah, thats what i thought....

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:16 AM

Yeah, MS is a huge group with almost 300 players. I've been in it for 18 months. Please note that the event is on so they stop playing FW and go solo. In this low population environment 50 people from the same unit go quickplay = sync drop is inevitable. They're not doing it on purpose but yes, it leaves that impression. From my experience most of them are not on TS, they don't communicate at all, they just act as normal pugs because they're already fed up from taking orders from drop commanders lol. They do have maxxed out pure meta build mechs (mastered with ALL modules) as it's a norm in the unit and that leaves the impression that they're cheating or whatever. You can't blame them, it's PGI's broken matchmaker that's at fault here.

Edited by Mirage Jenius, 23 August 2016 - 02:20 AM.


#40 Clownwarlord

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:46 AM

I agree MM and PSR are broken and have been since they were implemented, BUT it is still better than what it was before PSR was implemented.





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