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Poll: Unit name and crest (60 member(s) have cast votes)

Unit name

  1. St.Andrew's Armsmen (5 votes [6.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.76%

  2. Tikonov Loyalists (2 votes [2.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

  3. St.Andrew Order (3 votes [4.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.05%

  4. Tikonov Vindicators (3 votes [4.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.05%

  5. Spiked Stars of Tikonov (4 votes [5.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.41%

  6. Tikonov Avengers (11 votes [14.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.86%

  7. St. Andrew's Red Company (15 votes [20.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.27%

  8. Tikonov Thorns (4 votes [5.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.41%

  9. Tikonov Fusiliers (3 votes [4.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.05%

  10. Red Watch (16 votes [21.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.62%

  11. Tikonov Volunteer Mechanised (8 votes [10.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.81%

Unit crest

  1. 1 (9 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  2. 2 (16 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  3. 3 (14 votes [23.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.33%

  4. 4 (6 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  5. 5 (15 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

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#1 Lima Zulu

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:43 PM

So I've wrote a little story about unit with non-chinese roots. At the first instance it was called "minor warrior house" but now I'm not sure. I've discussed it with IxxxI, and we've think out a so many variants of unit name and crest and now can't choose something particular :( That's why I decided to make a poll. Even two - one about name and one about crest.
Crest sketches:
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Now, the story:

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3028. Pavel Ridzik signed alliance with Federated Suns that made Tikonov Commonality to secede from the Capellan Confederation. However, some people of Tikonov and other commonality worlds were not eager to revoke their allegiance to Sian and Chancellor himself. While majority of newly stated Tikonov Free Republic collaborated with Davion intruders, a few loyal warriors of CCAF became trapped in their recent home worlds, instantly turned to hostile territory. The loyalists were hunted by their converted comrades of Tikonov Republic Guards along with Davion Armed Forces and Department of Military Intelligence, but even being outnumbered, separated and abandoned by other CCAF, they weren't broken; no one of them became an easy prey. As long as they stayed in occupied territories, they were unable to oppose Liao enemies and even request help from metropolitan. Not an escape became their main priority, but sending a word to Sian: "We have survived; we loyal to our oath and we are still fighting for Capella!" Finally, they managed to make it done, and the message leaked out.

News reached the attentive ears of Chancellor’s adviser Tsen Shang in late 3029. Experienced politician knew well Chancellor's affection for good news; he decided to launch series of covert ops incursions into rebelled worlds, aimed to rescue loyalist forces (Tsen was planning to present them to his master as a symbol of loyalty or even form a retaliation force). The prize of operation was a symbol of Tikonov Commonality’s devotion to House Liao, the sign of nation’s unyielding spirit and thirst for retaliation.

Exhausted by guerrilla, wounded and hunted loyalists finally got a chance to break their long-standing siege. Since 3029 till 3031 CCAF managed to evacuate few left of survived warriors and equipment, not even enough to form a battalion. Disappointed, the Strategios made an unspoken decision to forget about their existence. That suited everyone except survivors, who considered themselves betrayed. They have come through years of fighting and losses not to be shelved as useless junk. And they made their own turn.

The letter, written and signed by all escaped warriors along with some other Tikonov natives staying loyal to Capella in all Confederation worlds, became a true surprise to Maximillian Liao. The petition contained no demands or complains, it was a confession and a humble plea for a chance to recover their honor, a vow to have no rest till Tikonov returns to the Confederation back again.

Touched by this penance (or maybe touched by upcoming madness - no one could say that for sure), Chancellor gave his agreement to found a unit, a brotherhood, bounded by their pledges. For the crest they took cross of Saint Andrew’s - an ancient Christian patron of Russia and Scotland. Unit came to life in 3030 as a battalion.

Unit is formed by veterans of 4th Succession War, mostly Tikonov native descendants of Russian and Scottish colonists. While most of warriors have great guerrilla background, unit had no opportunity to prove itself in any regular battle and lacks an joint combat experience.


P.S.
It's not a real-russian unit, just a pure idea to all who are interested to play capellan pilots of russian/scottish/tikonov origin.

Special thanks to IxxxI for discussion, advises and spell-check :unsure:

#2 Zectorman

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:36 PM

Mother's maiden name was Harper. Scot blood in me, so im all for this unit.

#3 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:52 PM

How about...Glasgow Rangers? :unsure:

#4 NeSpal

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 02:08 AM

Yeah, and then we complain about the stereotypes...
Russia is a drunk comrad in a fur hat (ushanka) with a balalaika in an embrace with a bear!
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#5 Lima Zulu

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:16 AM

I've seen some people here on forums eager to play СС characters with russian origins, that's why I wrote this - to help them avoid any widespread stereotypes, 'cause even canon lore is full of vodka-drinking cossacks in fur hats.

#6 Exilyth

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:21 PM

I, for one, welcome our russian/scottish brothers in arms. They might represent an often overlooked part of our society, but they are nonetheless capellan citizens with heart and soul. We stand united, fighting for a common goal, and one day, Tikonov shall be free again.


(OOC: This thread makes me wonder what a 'samovar' would look like in 3049... probably the same, but a bit more retrofuturistic.

Truly, russian culture is a lot more complicated than that, and the same goes for scottish culture and bagpipes.
To quote a friend: "Mysterious russian soul... we will never understand.")

#7 diana

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

What does the flower mean in the second one? The Unicorn was used as symbol on the flip side of gold coins in medieval Russia and the red star is obvious.

#8 Lima Zulu

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:03 PM

View PostDiana, on 01 April 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

What does the flower mean in the second one? The Unicorn was used as symbol on the flip side of gold coins in medieval Russia and the red star is obvious.

It's kinda thistle :ph34r: And unicorn from Scotland coat-of-arms (shieldbearer). So, basically, one half is a russian navy flag (with red star(s)) - blue St.Andrew's cross on white field, and other - for scottish flag (with thistle(s) or white unicorn) - white St.Andrew's cross on blue field. That's what main idea was, at least - to amalgamate russian and scottish well-known symbols.


View PostExilyth, on 01 April 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

(OOC: This thread makes me wonder what a 'samovar' would look like in 3049... probably the same, but a bit more retrofuturistic.
Truly, rus
Mmm kinda this
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Oh crap. Looks like I have an idea where dropship designs came from.

#9 MajDisaster

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:09 PM

Does this mean we can dress our Mechs in a kilt?

#10 Hayden

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:13 PM

There were a couple units destroyed in the 4th Succession War that could be resurrected (if that notion interests you), including McCrimmon's Light Cavalry and MacGregor's Armored Scouts. It's also feasible that elements of the Tikonov Reserves could have survived the conflict and ended up with the CCAF instead of Free Tikonov (this was certainly the case with the Chesterton Reserves, which survived the 4th Succession War and continue serving the CCAF until Sun Tzu's reforms rebrand them).

Just food for thought, good luck :ph34r:

#11 Lima Zulu

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostHayden, on 01 April 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

It's also feasible that elements of the Tikonov Reserves could have survived the conflict and ended up with the CCAF instead of Free Tikonov (this was certainly the case with the Chesterton Reserves, which survived the 4th Succession War and continue serving the CCAF until Sun Tzu's reforms rebrand them).

The idea was to make a non-canonical unit for MWO, free of predestinatination. As I suggest, it may comprises defeated Tikonov units' remnants, but I never had an actual list of those units, so thanks for info.

#12 Cole Wilson

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:55 PM

I'm quite interested in this endeavor. Gonna keep an eye on this one.

#13 GI Journalist

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 05:48 AM

I like the idea of the Capellan Confederation reviving the Order of St. Andrew. Members of this order would include the old families of Tikonov nobility, the Sheng, who are fighting to regain their ancestral lands. It would also include those who have made outstanding contributions in the fight against the occupation of Capellan worlds. These individuals would be made part of the "sword nobility" known as Barduc for their extraordinary martial prowess or financial contributions to the cause.

This unit would also be likely to have close ties to the Free Republic Revolutionaries, a political movement which precipitated from the former Tikonov Republican Guards who refused to accept Davion rule after the murder of Pavel Ridzik.

#14 Lima Zulu

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:03 AM

View PostGI Journalist, on 02 April 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Members of this order would include the old families of Tikonov nobility, the Sheng, who are fighting to regain their ancestral lands.

Someone from Sheng family looks like a good candidate to be a leader of those survivors. It's really great addition to the story, I think!

#15 Sky Blue Boy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:55 AM

With two people's and cultures strongly stereotyped for their relationship with alcohol, how about the Scotchka Irregulars?

#16 Hayden

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:08 PM

View PostSky Blue Boy, on 05 April 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

With two people's and cultures strongly stereotyped for their relationship with alcohol, how about the Scotchka Irregulars?


Wouldn't that just exacerbate the stereotypes? ;D

#17 Sky Blue Boy

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Quite possibly, hic.

#18 HIemfire

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:56 PM

The names need work (St. Andrew's Red Company is the only one that even comes close to blending the 2 historical identities as far as I can tell) or atleast an explination for them so that someone who has a father that grew up during the "Red Scare" (a.k.a. McCarthy Era) and proceed to try and drill the ideology of that era in to his head can get a clearer view.

#19 Lima Zulu

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:35 AM

Well, it's absolutely open to suggestions :) If you have some ideas, I can add it to the list too.

#20 HIemfire

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:43 AM

Woadman's Tulwars? Just popped into mind. Or Tulwars of Woad maybe? (The tulwar is the northern Asian version of the scimitar if I remember correctly)

Edit 1: Nope, I am wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talwar (was a redirect from Tulwar).. grrrrr.




Edit 2: AHHH. Got it! Shaskas (or what ever the plural is in Russian): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shashka.

Shaskas of Woad (make sure to use allot of blue in semi-random blotches... :))?

Edited by HIemfire, 07 April 2012 - 07:01 AM.






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