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Please change how pilot lab skills and variants work.


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#1 Kushko

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:47 AM

I propose a change to make it so any mech and variant of a certain weight class be counted in advancing to elite skills. So for example if i want to elite an Atlas (assault mechs) i could either buy 2 more variants of the Atlas and get all the basic skills OR i could buy an Awsome and eventually a Stalker/Highlander and have the basic skills unlocked on those count in my advancement to elite skills. This would change the fun crushing feeling that the current system has but also allow people who just love one single mech to advance using that chassis only.

If the developers want to keep the current system just to force people to spend more and more time grinding for c-bills (and as such incentivising the purchase of MC to avoid the horrid grind), you could just as well (actually better) achieve that by making it so u need 4-5 or even more mechs with all basic skills trained before advancing to elite. I dont mind the grind at all, just as long as it doesnt feel so tedious and pointless as it currently is with buying more versions of pretty much the exact same mech 3 times.

Also i would just like to say for the record that some variants actually are different enough to make using them feel new and exciting, for example the Catapult K2 variant, compared to other Catapults. But there are also other mech chassis where all the variants are almost identical with very minor differences that dont change their style of play at all, for example the Atlas chassis.

This would also fix the problem where the developers are forced to put in at least 3 variants of a mech even though the TT/Battletech restrictions dictate that all 3 variants will be almost identical.

Thank you for your time, and i hope that developers as well as other players read this and agree that changes along these lines must be made.

Edited by Kushko, 31 October 2012 - 02:52 AM.


#2 AndyHill

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:54 AM

I think this is a good idea. I really don't want to spend lots of time getting the money to buy and pilot a number of "different" atlases just to level one of them. Since this would make leveling much easier than it is now, there might be need for further balancing, though.

#3 Kushko

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:04 AM

Indeed. Could change it from needing 3 with all basic skills to needing lets say 6 to advance to elite. And then maybe make it so u need 9 with all elite skills to advance to master. Eventually to prolong the "grind" they could add an ace skill level and make it so u need 12 with all master skills to advance to ace skills (and all this for only 1 weight class).

Like i said, i have no problem with long grind times, as long as that grind doesnt feel mind numbingly pointless.

But i feel the time is running out on being able to introduce these changed smoothly. Once people unlock master levels with the current system it will be much harder to change it, unless they remove all the skills on all their mechs and reinburse the xp, but then theres a new problem with people who have already sold some of the mechs they skilled up (which could be fixed by changing it so u dont need to have the mech in ur mechlab to be able to pick skills if you have the xp to do it), etc.

The time for these changes is now. The sooner the better.

Edited by Kushko, 31 October 2012 - 03:13 AM.


#4 Hipsu

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:30 AM

Very good idea!

#5 StonedVet

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:33 AM

Great Idea. Who really wants to buy the same mech 3 times ...

#6 Dezereus

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:41 AM

I don't mind this idea either, even if they wanted to increase the number of "variants" of the weight class needed before getting the next level of skills it would probably be fine. Especially once they have a couple more mechs in each weight class. That being said I do understand to a certain extent why they did it that way and while I would like that change, its not a game breaker for me.

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#7 Kushko

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:44 AM

Thank you for the support. I'm not sure if number of replies has any impact on the chance of a dev noticing this post, but it sure cant hurt. So please post if you agree or if you dont (and why) and lets get noticed. :wub:

Edited by Kushko, 31 October 2012 - 04:44 AM.


#8 Xantha

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:57 AM

An even simpler fix to this issue is just multiply the XP cost x 3 and let us just pilot what we want. None of this buy a mech, level it up to master, rinse and repeat twice, then sell off 2 mechs you won't ever use again crap.

#9 Mack1

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:16 AM

Great idea and it would enable people like me to actually do it. As the game is now am not even going to attempt to elite any Mechs as the bonus is so terrible it's not worth the grind. No way am I spending my MC on Mechs I don't want to play.

#10 Korobug

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:22 AM

The only flaw I see with your system, if I'm looking at it correctly, is once you unlock elite, every single mech of that weight class unlocks elite. If you want the game to keep going over a year everyones going to have master on every mech, or at least everyone who started when the game was first released.
I think that your idea will work, but instead have it so that when you unlock it on so many, you can select a mech of that weight class to advance. I'm just going to use purely example numbers. Lets say you need to raise up 3 mechs by unlocking all their basic scales to achieve elite status. Well to get another mech up to elite you would have to raise up 2 more mechs. Something like that rather than having the weight class permanently unlocked.

#11 Lorcis

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:49 AM

I don't mind the grind, I enjoy playing,but please, allow us the choice of which mechs to grind,Don't force us to pilot Mechs that we don't like, to get one that we do.
In other games, like city of heroes, as we grind, our hero gets better and more interesting, new powers and abilities, costumes, etc, if i find the mechs i like, please don't make me pilot something else, just to get the one I like, where i want it to be.
Please remember, the thing that will keep us all playing, grinding and spending money is Fun! Fun and more FUN!!!





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