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#1 Norris J Packard

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

Stop spreading bad ideas.

#2 Calmon

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:00 AM

I use double LBX-10 in my founder atlas and it works really really good! LBX-10 is fine just because we have some OP stuff (Gauss, LRM) doesn't make it UP.

Try this out:

Atlas-D (or Founder)
2xLRM 15
2xLBX-10
4xSmall Laser
325 Standard Engine
DHS (Just put the 3 additional in engine, 0 in any critical slot)
Endo Steel
Slightly lower Armor in Legs (I usually go with just 30)
Rest ammunition

You now are fine on range and can decide on any time to go more close range (Atlas Armor is wasted on Range so go at one point!).

Heat Management is fine for LRM fire, in close Range take LBX and Small Lasers. When heat is over 80% stop using lasers go only with LBX.

Its a competitive build, don't listen to the crowd, try out yourself! In my playgroup everybody said few weeks ago: LBX-10 is just bad. In the last weeks they changed their minds!

LBX-10 compared to AC-10:
- You get not only 1 ton you also get 1 slot which allows to dual in Atlas-D
- LBX 10 is incredible close range because you get 10 chances to crit! When you double even 20 and you usually hit many Hit-Regions. Any zone without armor=crits, crits, crits. You finish of very fast.
- LBX-10 fired on (higher!) distance hit something on a mech an he usually go into cover. That he only get 1 or 2 damage isn't much important. You make him busy. If you fire on distance in a mechbulk you can hit even mor ethan one. Sure no real damage but they get nervous.

For me AC10 and LBX-10 are at least on par. I prefer clearly the LBX.

Edited by Calmon, 01 November 2012 - 01:42 AM.


#3 Yokaiko

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:01 AM

My dual LBX 10 Shotgun Atlas says its a bad idea to be in front of it.

#4 MajorLeeHung

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:04 AM

View PostYokaiko, on 01 November 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

My dual LBX 10 Shotgun Atlas says its a bad idea to be in front of it.


hey! mine says that too!

#5 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:05 AM

Still better than the accuracy of the normal AC10...

#6 Norris J Packard

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostCalmon, on 01 November 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

I use double LBX-10 in my founder atlas and it works really really good! LBX-10 is fine just because we have some OP stuff (Gauss, LRM) doesn't make it UP.

View PostYokaiko, on 01 November 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

My dual LBX 10 Shotgun Atlas says its a bad idea to be in front of it.


You guys keep saying that, but I am going to tell you that I rip those Atlas' apart in my own Atlas.

#7 Booran

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:07 AM

Made CN9-A with LBX yesterday, totally castrated several mediums and tore armour of an Atlas faster than other auto cannons (granted I also used SSRMs so they might've done the brunt of the work).
It's fun, has a "punchy" feel, and it's great as a finisher in a brawl.

#8 Norris J Packard

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

View Postmwhighlander, on 01 November 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Still better than the accuracy of the normal AC10...


But, I killed the double LBX-10 Atlas and you solo. Maybe you should rethink this strategy?

#9 MajorLeeHung

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:


You guys keep saying that, but I am going to tell you that I rip those Atlas' apart in my own Atlas.


You keep saying that. My LBX's are also backed up by 4 med lazors and 2 srm-6's. step up.


edit had to throw in my edit before the words, "ill blow you up with my gauss before you even get close" come outta your mouth

Edited by MajorLeeHung, 01 November 2012 - 01:10 AM.


#10 Norris J Packard

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:09 AM

View PostMajorLeeHung, on 01 November 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:


You keep saying that. My LBX's are also backed up by 4 med lazors and 2 srm-6's. step up.


And I still kill you. Every time.

#11 INAPPROPRIATE NAME 0001

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

View Postmwhighlander, on 01 November 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Still better than the accuracy of the normal AC10...

It's actually ****** because it's subjected to the same firing delay that all AC weapons (Including the 10) suffer from. Worse also because you need to be absurdly close to get most of the pellets in a single location.

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:


But, I killed the double LBX-10 Atlas and you solo. Maybe you should rethink this strategy?

The atlas was focusing me and being picked apart by Chimeras Jenner while this was going on, lern2pay attention ***.


View PostMajorLeeHung, on 01 November 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:


You keep saying that. My LBX's are also backed up by 4 med lazors and 2 srm-6's. step up.


edit had to throw in my edit before the words, "ill blow you up with my gauss before you even get close" come outta your mouth


So to make a ****** weapon worthwhile you need to dedicate, what, 12 tons of weapons, a ton of ammo and countless heat sinks to back it up? You know you'd be doing better with a Gauss, yes?

Edited by INAPPROPRIATE NAME 0001, 01 November 2012 - 01:12 AM.


#12 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:09 AM, said:


And I still kill you. Every time.


My god! The 'epeen'! It won't stop growing!

#13 MajorLeeHung

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:09 AM, said:


And I still kill you. Every time.



Kids a troll. Played him and spanked him every time Iv seen him. Scrub kid doing some scrub trollolololing

#14 cryonic

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

Watched a teammate kill three lights each with a single volley of double lb10x this morning. A normal double ac10 might have worked just as well but it seemed to work for him.

#15 Leetskeet

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

ITT : People don't realize their LBX Atlases suck

#16 Norris J Packard

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:12 AM

View Postmwhighlander, on 01 November 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:


My god! The 'epeen'! It won't stop growing!


Don't confused e-peen with optimization.

LBX-10 is a horrid weapon, even double slotted.

#17 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:14 AM

I never said it was good?

#18 MajorLeeHung

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:14 AM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:


Don't confused e-peen with optimization.

LBX-10 is a horrid weapon, even double slotted.



EZ way to fix this. If your interested PM me Ill hook you up with my merc corps TS and you can jump on tomorrow and we will setup a 8v8 drop vs each other and see who wins. Unless your worried you will get spanked by my horrid weapon setup.

#19 INAPPROPRIATE NAME 0001

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:16 AM

View PostMajorLeeHung, on 01 November 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

tl;dr


Ugh, moment you challenge him Ulf goes off steam. What a scrub.

#20 RAM

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:17 AM

View PostNorris J Packard, on 01 November 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:

LBX-10 is a horrid weapon, even double slotted.

Suboptimal /= horrible


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