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#1 WashRinseRepeat

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

Hi,
I just purchased myself a brand spanking new 3L and felt like outfitting it with 2 SRM6 launchers. Now the launchers fit and it works, but for some reason one of the launchers fires all 6 srms at once and the other launches 6 srms successively, which is terribly annoying since I have to wait about 2 seconds for the entire stream to finish and it severely limits my instant damage potential.
Is that intended and if so why?

#2 FerrolupisXIII

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:45 AM

when you look at the physical launcher on the mech, how many holes does it have? when a launcher fires it has to use the physical launcher tubes. so an SRM-6 launching out of a single tube launcher would have to launch 6 missiles in a row. happens with LRM's too, when you install larger/ more launchers than what the stock model has.

#3 Wolfcp

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

It is intended. Look at the Raven 3L model: the left launcher was intended for the single-shot NARC and therefore has only one missile tube. Physically, only one missile can exit the tube at a time. The launcher on the right torso has six tubes and thus it can fire all 6 SRMS at once.

#4 Wove

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:49 AM

Yep, try launching an LRM20 out of the two tubes on a dragon's arm.

#5 FrostCollar

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

Yeah, this is the case with all mechs. There was a thread a few days back about the Atlas and how long it takes a 2 tube launcher to launch a full LRM20 volley.

Just remember: the weapon cooldown only starts once all the missiles are fired.

#6 Dogan

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

BTW you can use it to your advantage. Reports of tighter missile grouping and extended duration cockpit shaking.

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#7 Stingz

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:35 PM

Best advice I can give is either use SRM-2 or Streaks in the NARC (one-shot) pod. SRM-2 fires off quick, and Streaks have lock.

Edited by Stingz, 05 December 2012 - 05:35 PM.


#8 GH0ST1E

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:30 AM

I use an SRM-4 in that arm, you can get used to it, just think it as a rapid fire ballistic weapon.

#9 Smeghead87

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

Ha, I made the exact same post when I bought my Raven 3L weeks ago. Im currently experimenting with one SRM6 for large targets and one SSRM2 for faster targets.

I'm still kinda curious if this only effects missile hardpoints. The Hunchback 4G appears to have up to 3 ballistic weapons sharing the same gun barrel. Does anyone know if these fire 1 at once or all 3 at a time?

Edited by Smeghead87, 06 December 2012 - 02:48 PM.


#10 PapaKilo

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

If you have them in standard group fire mode, yes they all fire at once from the same barrel. It's basically one bigger bullet.

Lasers do the same thing on 'Mechs like the JR7-F Jenner, where three lasers share two lenses in each arm. The top lens has one laser, and the other two lasers fire from the bottom lens. You can tell which lens two lasers are firing from because the beam is brighter from that lens.

#11 Ryft

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:54 AM

Is there any way to control which weapon system fits to which launcher, when all the launchers are in the same body part?

Experimenting with my Atlas D-DC, which seems to have a ten tube launcher, and... just one 6 tube launcher? And 3 missile hardpoints.

#12 PapaKilo

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:00 PM

I don't think so, as the Mech Lab automatically re-orders your weapons/equipment by its own logic after you save a loadout.

For instance:

If I put an LRM-15 and an SRM-6 in the Catapult-C4 arm, it puts the LRM on top and the SRM on the bottom after I save. But if I put an LRM-15 and an SRM-4 in the arm, it puts the SRM on top of the LRM in the slots after I save.

Edited by PapaKilo, 07 December 2012 - 12:04 PM.


#13 Fred013

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:58 PM

One hardpoint is in right torso, and had 6 launcher tubes. The other, in the left arm or torso (I don't remember) is the single NARC tube. I'd like to know what sort of effect NARC has....

Put an LRM20 in the NARC tube, launch, and watch the tube of toothpaste stream out of your left arm!

#14 Ryft

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:13 PM

There was a guy who just posted a topic about doing that very thing. He found it really amusing. I think it could actually be really disruptive against non AMS users.

#15 Flying Blind

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

yup, LRM20 on the L3 arm is hilarious. not the ideal weapon set up, but hilarious none the less.

#16 Stingz

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostRyft, on 07 December 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

There was a guy who just posted a topic about doing that very thing. He found it really amusing. I think it could actually be really disruptive against non AMS users.


I can confirm, I hate Cataphracts with LRMs in the SRM-4 arm. Those missiles just keep coming, and shaking the screen hard.

#17 Wrenchfarm

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:55 PM

I put an LRM20 in the dinky left arm launcher of an Awesome-9M, hilarity ensued. Not only did it take forever to fire, but the staccato rhythm of the missiles let AMS systems completely defeat the whole volley!

Wheeee! Uselessness!


On the other hand, putting a SRM6 pack let me give people the shakes at close range while the lasers charged up for another shot. So sometimes it can be a blessing in disguise.

Would it be better to slot a SRM2 in that Raven's small launcher and use the saved tonnage for something else?

#18 Smeghead87

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

View PostWrenchfarm, on 07 December 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Would it be better to slot a SRM2 in that Raven's small launcher and use the saved tonnage for something else?

I've currently got a streak in the arm and a srm6 in the right torso, might change this though as I'm trying to squeeze a bigger engine in.

#19 Gravegore

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

Yup, im using a 6SRM in the larger spot and a 4SRM on the arm spot. my Raven has been doing some nice DPS

#20 PapaKilo

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:31 AM

My Raven's loadout includes two Streak-2s,. one medium pulse laser, one medium laser, ECM, and BAP. I like the way the missiles fire differently out of the different launchers.





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